Actually one of the things that bothered me most about the Johari Window ep was that we only saw ONE kid in the town - maybe there were others, but they weren't mentioned or seen? So the kid is apparently all alone in a 2K person town with no one else his age - of course he wants to run away! That's practically child abuse, keeping him there. Argh >.>
...But it was only one ep, so I can let it slide. The show's not Supernatural! XP
And yeah, they do a good job with Walter's condition - he's a genuine mad scientist, but the 'mad' part isn't just played for laughs (...not as much as the 'science'!)
All the characters do such a marvelous job with their alternate-universe counterparts! I was incredibly impressed with Anna Torv's ability to show you which Olivia she is, including Olivias pretending to be other Olivias, just by the way she holds her face. And John Noble is absolutely brilliant...
Yes - Olivia is so controlled that it was hard to get a handle on Anna Torv until she's being someone else - but then she is convincingly someone else! John Noble as well - I loved the part in the ep where they plugged Walter back into his missing bits of brain (...oh show...) and he became the old Walter Bishop, bearing and voice and everything - and Walternate channels the same. It's very effective (and makes you appreciate that Walter is in most respects the better man now...)
(I find it interesting that many of the criticisms Walter lays on William Bell seem like they might apply more to his old self or Walternate, from what we see of Bell, but Walter is transferring...)
one of the main reasons why Fringe succeeds for me so well, despite the ridiculous science and sometimes ridiculous plots, is because they focus on this small group of characters and explore their slowly evolving relationships in a really satisfying way. (Except for Astrid. Poor neglected Astrid.) They have a large enough cast that it's not as claustrophobic as Supernatural
Yes to all of this! (Including Astrid, oh, poor Astrid...) They have a larger supporting cast than SPN, which helps - both in developing the chars, and in developing the core relationships, because you get to see how, say, Walter & Peter function in the context of dealing with Broyles, or Astrid. I think it also helps that the relationships are more atypical, like you say - Walter & Peter especially, who have a dynamic that defies any standard definition. The son-as-caretaker is unusual anyway, but with the AU aspect...and yeah, the moments that the love comes through are beautiful.
(That being said, I admit to craving more Peter-hurt. Which he's pretty good at already - he's the obvious choice, since it has the max effect on both Walter and Olivia - but still, yes, gimme my h/c...!)
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...But it was only one ep, so I can let it slide. The show's not Supernatural! XP
And yeah, they do a good job with Walter's condition - he's a genuine mad scientist, but the 'mad' part isn't just played for laughs (...not as much as the 'science'!)
All the characters do such a marvelous job with their alternate-universe counterparts! I was incredibly impressed with Anna Torv's ability to show you which Olivia she is, including Olivias pretending to be other Olivias, just by the way she holds her face. And John Noble is absolutely brilliant...
Yes - Olivia is so controlled that it was hard to get a handle on Anna Torv until she's being someone else - but then she is convincingly someone else! John Noble as well - I loved the part in the ep where they plugged Walter back into his missing bits of brain (...oh show...) and he became the old Walter Bishop, bearing and voice and everything - and Walternate channels the same. It's very effective (and makes you appreciate that Walter is in most respects the better man now...)
(I find it interesting that many of the criticisms Walter lays on William Bell seem like they might apply more to his old self or Walternate, from what we see of Bell, but Walter is transferring...)
one of the main reasons why Fringe succeeds for me so well, despite the ridiculous science and sometimes ridiculous plots, is because they focus on this small group of characters and explore their slowly evolving relationships in a really satisfying way. (Except for Astrid. Poor neglected Astrid.) They have a large enough cast that it's not as claustrophobic as Supernatural
Yes to all of this! (Including Astrid, oh, poor Astrid...) They have a larger supporting cast than SPN, which helps - both in developing the chars, and in developing the core relationships, because you get to see how, say, Walter & Peter function in the context of dealing with Broyles, or Astrid. I think it also helps that the relationships are more atypical, like you say - Walter & Peter especially, who have a dynamic that defies any standard definition. The son-as-caretaker is unusual anyway, but with the AU aspect...and yeah, the moments that the love comes through are beautiful.
(That being said, I admit to craving more Peter-hurt. Which he's pretty good at already - he's the obvious choice, since it has the max effect on both Walter and Olivia - but still, yes, gimme my h/c...!)