Yup, I also subscribe to the Loki-maybe-wasn't-in-his-right-mind theory (see the last post I've put up!) Especially the way he folds at the end - either he's honestly relieved to have lost (and maybe be bonked back to himself?), or he's got a master-plan, but whichever it is he really wasn't as upset about losing as one would expect...
(And Thor doesn't know Loki was with Thanos - he knows something happened to him, he asks "Who showed you this power? Who controls the would-be king?" - but Loki doesn't tell him, and Thor doesn't seem to have an actual guess who or what or how Loki's being influenced. That he keeps trying to get through to Loki anyway, even having less evidence than the audience that his brother's being manipulated - awww, Thor! Now yeah, that's a big double-standard - I like my heroes to never give up, and my villains to always, in the end...)
Comics!Loki is a lot more overtly and consciously evil (at least until the current storyline with kid!Loki, which is beyond amazing) - but even he's got some interesting motivations when it comes to fate and his role as a trickster god - he might not have a choice about being what he is, in-canon as well as the casting in fiction.
I suppose it comes down to me as wanting to be able to cheer a 'villain' or villainous type on as they try to better themselves and become 'good'/redeemed and do penance and fix their mistakes (what they can fix). I also like the idea of redeemability for all, as well:)
Yup, this! I find tremendous satisfaction and optimism in redemption stories, because their underlying theme is that anyone can change for the better, anyone has the capacity. There are some characters who for me are too far gone, who have never shown enough humanity for me to believe it's possible (some versions of comics!Lex can fall into this) but SV!Lex and movies!Loki are nowhere near that far gone, no matter what terrible things they've done...
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Yup, I also subscribe to the Loki-maybe-wasn't-in-his-right-mind theory (see the last post I've put up!) Especially the way he folds at the end - either he's honestly relieved to have lost (and maybe be bonked back to himself?), or he's got a master-plan, but whichever it is he really wasn't as upset about losing as one would expect...
(And Thor doesn't know Loki was with Thanos - he knows something happened to him, he asks "Who showed you this power? Who controls the would-be king?" - but Loki doesn't tell him, and Thor doesn't seem to have an actual guess who or what or how Loki's being influenced. That he keeps trying to get through to Loki anyway, even having less evidence than the audience that his brother's being manipulated - awww, Thor! Now yeah, that's a big double-standard - I like my heroes to never give up, and my villains to always, in the end...)
Comics!Loki is a lot more overtly and consciously evil (at least until the current storyline with kid!Loki, which is beyond amazing) - but even he's got some interesting motivations when it comes to fate and his role as a trickster god - he might not have a choice about being what he is, in-canon as well as the casting in fiction.
I suppose it comes down to me as wanting to be able to cheer a 'villain' or villainous type on as they try to better themselves and become 'good'/redeemed and do penance and fix their mistakes (what they can fix). I also like the idea of redeemability for all, as well:)
Yup, this! I find tremendous satisfaction and optimism in redemption stories, because their underlying theme is that anyone can change for the better, anyone has the capacity. There are some characters who for me are too far gone, who have never shown enough humanity for me to believe it's possible (some versions of comics!Lex can fall into this) but SV!Lex and movies!Loki are nowhere near that far gone, no matter what terrible things they've done...