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X-parrot ([personal profile] xparrot) wrote2011-05-29 01:46 am
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more One Piece squee

Having now read through ch.597:



Marineford is INSANE. I don't even know exactly how I feel about it, because it was just so epically out of control. Forget "war is hell," this war was madness. And not OP's silly crack, either.

Okay, ouch. Yeah. I'll confess, I didn't actually cry at Ace's death - and yes, that's probably because I was spoiled for it. OTOH I'm not sure I would've wanted to read it unspoiled. Because to go through so much, so much sacrifice and desperation - Luffy giving up 10 years of his life, and then he keeps pushing himself beyond his limits, how many times; and Bon Clay sacrificing himself to get them there; and Whitebeard and all of his men, going to war with the government of the world, all to save him - and then they do save him from the execution, and he and Luffy are fighting back-to-back - after all that, to fail...ow. The "rescue a comrade" is a standard shounen trope, but isn't the comrade always supposed to get rescued? And that he died for Luffy...that after all that, it was so fast - one blow and it's over. Oda-sensei, you are a cruel master indeed.

But I did tear up post-flashback, "I HAVE MY NAKAMA!" Oh, Luffy...

It was a long time to go without the nakama (by my count it was about 2 years' real time as well as in-story?!) but at the same time, it's good that they weren't there. Because it's doubtful they all would've made it out alive, and besides, seeing Luffy like that, so completely overwhelmed - they were all so torn up just hearing about it; seeing it would've killed them. Any of them would've given their lives to spare Luffy that pain, and it's good that none of them were there to try.

(That being said, I miss them all and can't wait for them to be back together - gonna start reading post-time-skip before bed, let's see how much sleep I actually get tonight...!)

(Also hee to the various adventures they're having, especially Zoro with Mihawk, and even more specially Franky's explosive adventures of running screaming through the mountains wearing a tiger skin that's on fire and thus inadvertently spawning a new legend of the Grand Line. I nearly cried at that, too, I was laughing so hard XD)

Meanwhile, while not the nakama, everyone else ever was there - yay Bon Clay! And Crocodile~~~! Okay, Crocodile has always been my favorite OP big bad, for being such an OTT James-Bond supervillain, and he was in such fine form here - and nominally on their side, even if only because it served his purposes, and eeeee~~! Plus the newcomers - Ivankov is pretty dang awesome, as is Inazuma who is just fabulous with those scissors (and the wineglass!) And aww, Jinbe, getting attached to Luffy in spite of himself (as you do. Which is apparently part of his bloodline? Hmm...)

Speaking of bad guys and not-bad guys...I don't actually hate Sengoku. I'm not sure I like him, but he seems to be one of the more honorable Marines types? He genuinely believes he's keeping the peace for the sake of the world, and it's not his fault that the supposed peace-keepers are rotten to the core (his outraged disbelief at the end, when the World Government ordered him to cover up the Level 6 escapes...and before when Ace dies, and Garp is telling him to hold him down, because otherwise ...) Kizaru and Akainu are both assholes (Akainu might be the more evil, but Kizaru just grates on me; looking forward to seeing them both go down hard.) Aokiji is still cool (*cough*) and I still love Smoker, even though I was sad to see him on the wrong side...

And Coby! Oh Coby!! <3333 You've come so far, even if you still have a ways to go (but he's mastering Rokushiki, that's awesome! ...does that mean he's trying for CP9?)

And SHANKS! I didn't really have spoilers there - I thought I'd heard Shanks appeared but wasn't sure. So that he's there and STOPS THE WAR, basically just by saying so - so does Shanks get by entirely on his haki?? I.e. the spirit of total badassery.

Ahah, and that's why everyone loves Trafalgar Law - I knew he was popular but didn't know why (other than that he's hot by OP standards.) Yeah, saving Luffy rather does predispose me to like him, too.

Have one question - I was reading pretty quickly, and I'm notoriously bad at following action in shounen manga (one of the reasons I do tend to like it animated) and Marineford as previously mentioned is insanity on paper, so I might've just missed this - but did Garp ever really fight? Like did we see what his power was? Other than this one page, and I can't tell what he's doing, except that the magma has a dog head? (I love Garp, but that goes without saying, no?)

So that was why Blackbeard wanted the gura-gura fruit - because he can absorb other powers? Allow me to be the latest to say OH SHIT. (Paging Dr. Vegapunk!! When are we gonna meet that bastard, anyway????)

Also, Sabo...so he's with Dragon now? (I'm assuming it was him injured here, otherwise this page makes no sense. Except for the awww chibi!Zoro & Kuina!) The three brothers were awful cute, but man that story was dark, even for OP...

(Hmm, looking at those online scans , they're different translations from what I read...yargh I really need to be able to read this in Japanese >.> I can, but it takes so long with all the vocab I gotta look up, it's easier with scanlations...but then I miss stuff...)

Also I've been watching the anime's Water 7 with the bro (he's never gotten around to reading the manga, so the anime is mostly how he gets his OP) - and even though the animation quality is sub-par compared to Oda's gorgeous art, and they stretch out the fights and the gags and everything else shamelessly (LOLOL how just about every trick of animating manga that Gintama makes fun of is played totally straight in OP), the story's still fantastic and the seiyuu are amazing (Tanaka Mayumi as Luffy, oh my god. And Yamaguchi Kappei damn near rips his own heart out.) and the "Oitsumerareta" BGM ("Cornered", a.k.a the "You do NOT hurt Monkey D. Luffy's nakama" theme) still makes me want to cheer. (and rewatch Arlong Park. I want to find someone to show the show to...that's the one advantage of OP not being the most popular series over here; there's still people you can share it with, and it's fun to watch someone be captivated for the first time...)

[identity profile] alessandriana.livejournal.com 2011-05-29 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahah, and that's why everyone loves Trafalgar Law - I knew he was popular but didn't know why (other than that he's hot by OP standards.)

As I recall, the Trafalgar Law love actually started long before he saved Luffy, and was indeed based on the fact that he's hot. XD Gotta love fangirls...
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-05-29 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee - well, it's not like fanboys are even better! XD (and he does have a cunning hat XD)

[identity profile] goathoofie.livejournal.com 2011-05-29 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I love reading OP love. In that scene with the magma dog, that was Akainu, not Garp. Is that the one you meant?

I feel out of love with a lot of manga I read as a kid, but not One Piece. Never One Piece.
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-05-29 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm, see, that's what I wasn't sure about. The magma is definitely Akainu's - but the shape of it, on that one page, is a dog's head that looks specifically like Garp's dog-hat. And Akainu doesn't form his magma into that shape in any other scene (usually he just made fists) and it was when they had just said Garp was joining the fray - but I'm not sure what he's doing...!

I'm sadly too old to have read OP as a kid, but that's okay, because really it would be hard for me to love it more than I do ^_^

[identity profile] goathoofie.livejournal.com 2011-05-29 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
'Akainu' does mean red dog though, so I guess if he formed it into any shape...it'd be a dog? That was my reasoning. I don't think Garp has any devil fruit power.
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[personal profile] naye 2011-05-29 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
There's two years worth off thoughts and emotions and just STUFF in this post, so I'm having to choose between ESSAY OF SQUEE and just being brief.

...picking brief. For now.

Two years: yep, pretty much to the week, actually. I think there was two weeks' worth of Jumps difference between the final Shabondy chapter, and the first time-skip chapter. My posts at the time will have the details. But... yeah, that's the kind of storyteller Oda is. It all works on ridiculous amounts of levels.

I don't think we've seen Garp fight; we don't know that Sabo is with Dragon (Ace and Luffy both thought he was dead all those years), but Dragon did pick up someone badly injured at the right time and place; Vegapunk might actually not be a bastard at all, but an innocent pressured by the government (there's a lot of hints about him - discussing it in person will be awesome!); and Shanks can indeed stop a whole war just by showing up and being himself. WHY IS HE NOT PIRATE KING?! I mean. Seriously. Clearly he doesn't want to, or he would be. Or he would have died trying. But... the man is up to something, and has been up to something for the past ten+ years. ALSO IS AWESOME OMG. *sparkles*

Yep. This is brief! And now you're basically caught up with me - anything beyond the early 600's I count as spoilers, because I haven't actually sat down and read those in Japanese. And I haven't read anything at all past 610 or so.

Anyway. ONE PIECE! ♥
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-05-29 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
...picking brief. For now.

XD

Vegapunk might actually not be a bastard at all, but an innocent pressured by the government

Oh, I noticed this - between Franky being on his old lab and hearing that Vegapunk was trying to make central heating for the island, to him granting Kumo's last wish and planting the command...yeah, very curious. Also he's the one who knows about the Akuma no Mi, and having read the whole series again, I REALLY want to know just what the deal is with them, because it seems like there might be some major mysteries there? (I love that OP has two kinds of mysteries, those major questions that you can tear out your hair puzzling over - like Ace giving Luffy the paper or WHAT IS THE ^$)%*#@$% ONE PIECE?!?!!?!?!? - and the mysteries like Shanks's first use of haki that you don't even realize are questions until they're answered. And the best part is that unlike X-files or Lost, you can be sure that you are going to get answers!! ...someday ^^;;)

Also Shanks!!!!! <33333 Yeeeeeah, what is his deal?? Was it staggering coincidence that he befriended Luffy or does he have a connection with Dragon/Fuusha? ....also is he the most powerful of the 4 emperors? He was stronger than Whitebeard (loved Mihawk just checking out when Shanks turned up - "Nope, I didn't sign on for him!") but Whitebeard was definitely not at full strength anymore,so...

And now I have actually gotten ahead of you! the tables have turned, mwahahah! (no really, you gotta catch up~~!)

[identity profile] hyoutan.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Ahah, and that's why everyone loves Trafalgar Law - I knew he was popular but didn't know why (other than that he's hot by OP standards.)

Also, I would like to add that, of the sinister powers on the Grand Line, the way he uses his Room/Shambles combo? Terrifying! (Makes me wonder how many former Heart-pirates enemies are wandering around with parts of other people and objects affixed to their body....)

As for everything else....YES. Marineford was loooonnnggg, and I was pretty sure it would never end. And then it did, and I was MAD. But, it's getting better now :P
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhh, he's the one who can mix up the body-parts! I kind of lost track of whose powers were whose among the Supernovae. But yeah, creepy...!

I didn't dislike Marineford, and it was awful intense...but I'm glad to be back with the nakama (...if slightly terrified that one of them could now die... .__.;)

[identity profile] sakurazuka-jae.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
Ahah, and that's why everyone loves Trafalgar Law - I knew he was popular but didn't know why (other than that he's hot by OP standards.)

Part of it's the hotness, part of it's the awesome crew (between Bepo and the cool recruitment of Jean-Bart I knew I could love this captain), but for me the biggest part was the way he framed his reasons for coming to the rescue - the bond of enemies still being a bond just resonated for me (admitedly it's closely related to the fairly common shonen trope where the defeated get terribly possessive of their defeater - the whole "I am awesome and you defeated me and therefore you are not allowed to lose to ANYONE ELSE because I will not be defeated by a loser" thing. Which I love, because it is completely bananas.)

I've been wondering actually if the Shabondy arc bringing together Kid, Law and Luffy was perhaps a way of setting up the next generation of "Emperors". I can certainly see Luffy and Law becoming the Roger and Whitebeard of their generation.

Back to Marineford, I have to admit the lack of nakama bugged me a lot, but I understand why they weren't there (one of my favourite moments actually centre around them not being there: the lovely shot of Luffy and his... group and everyone going, "WTH? THat is a messed up combo"). (My ultimate favourite moment is of course Luffy's arrival and Sengoku's deeply irritated, "Garp, it's your family AGAIN!!" I agree with you on him btw, I really think he's an honourable man, like Garp, stuck in an awkward position.)

Akainu and Kizaru are indeed both assholes. I kind of liked Kizaru at first but his actions have put me off him in a big way, and I too look forward to the inevitable day in which he gets his arse kicked. Enjoyed Inazuma and Ivankov but LOVED Jinbei. He is just a big squooshy softy really, and I adore him to pieces. Far too noble (in the "that's gonna get you in trouble/too good for your environment" kind of way), but so much love for him in general.

And of course, Mihawk. But I will restrain the squee.

One final shoutout for the man of the hour and his crew - Whitebeard. I'd been expecting him to be evil, but after the "No, you didn't disobey me. I told you to go after him, didn't I Marco?" I couldn't help but love him. Plus he and Luffy were just hysterical together.
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
Part of it's the hotness, part of it's the awesome crew (between Bepo and the cool recruitment of Jean-Bart I knew I could love this captain), but for me the biggest part was the way he framed his reasons for coming to the rescue - the bond of enemies still being a bond just resonated for me

Yes, I can see this, I love shounen enemy bonding as well! And there was also a fair bit of enemy-of-my-enemy going on there, I think. Will be curious to see what's become of Law and his crew in the last couple years!

See, Kizaru irritated me from the start, not sure if it's his char design or his smugness or what...but yeah, want to see both him and Akainu go down hard (and very curious what Luffy's going to be like when he sees Akainu again...!)

And Jinbe has much awesome...am curious to see how Arlong came from him! Though I guess Arlong always did have loyalty to other fishmen, it was humans he hated. And Jinbe doesn't seem all that fond of humans; he's just not as prejudiced...anyway I'm on the fishman island arc now, so I guess I'll be finding out!

Mihawk~! <333 Hard not to love Mihawk.

And Whitebeard, yes! This:

I'd been expecting him to be evil, but after the "No, you didn't disobey me. I told you to go after him, didn't I Marco?" I couldn't help but love him

Yes, exactly! Well, I didn't expect him to be evil - I couldn't see Ace so loyally following someone actually evil - but Whitebeard and his family, awww, they were sweeter than I expected. At least Ace died knowing he was loved and valued by so many (ow, it still hurts though...)

[identity profile] hakkai-duo.livejournal.com 2011-06-02 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi,

You don't know me, but I like you got to be about 3 years behind on One Piece and just recently caught up. (I then decided to see what the fandom was like, and through lots of clicking I managed to make my way to your fics, which I love by the way ^_^)

I just wanna say, your thoughts on Marineford pretty much echo mine exactly. I read it during Final Exams week (huge mistake, I ended up spending most of the time thinking about what could happen next as opposed to answering the essay question on a final..whoops..) and was just blown away by it.

I don't know if you started the Post Time Skip yet, but it was like 3 in the morning when I finally got to it, and just couldn't bring myself to stop (One Piece does that to me all the time) I am curious to hear what you think of the Post Time Skipness.

So yea, Hi. I like your fics and your One Piece rambles so I am probably gonna lurk here a bit (I don't use LJ that much anymore tho...)

Hopefully I don't come off as too creepy.

[identity profile] hakkai-duo.livejournal.com 2011-06-02 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh p.s You also like Doctor Who, SPN and Saiyuki (from what I can see from your recent entries) and I heart you even more now lol.
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2011-06-03 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
(hee - I'm also a fan of Big Bang Theory! ^^)

Yup, I've now read all the OP that's out - need to do a follow-up post! I rather love the time skip, really - it worried me a bit (looking at the new char designs especially) but once it got going and everyone was still themselves, plus a level of awesome (...or a level of neurosis ^^;) - yeah, so much fun. The Fishman island arc I'm not enjoying as much as some of the others, but will see how it shakes out...and well, just having everybody back together and being ridiculous, whee~!

And welcome to the lj, the more the merrier! Especially someone with excellent taste in their series ^^ (I will admit now that SPN I have a love-hate relationship with at best, but Doctor Who and Saiyuki are eternal-forever fandoms, even if I'm not always active in 'em!)

[identity profile] hakkai-duo.livejournal.com 2011-06-03 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
BBT too! You are officially awesome. ^_^

I too have a love/hate thing with SPN, especially after season 6 finale... gah. Blegh.

As you can tell by my user name, I LOVE Saiyuki! It makes me happy, though I never finished the Manga, should get on that.

The post time skip, I love it so. Zoro's new look is just....guh. I smile everytime I see it (I also want soo much fic of his two years of training soo bad, all the adventures mwahaha) I was really weirded out by Sanji at first, but now I actually quite like it. Franky is just...yea. Though his hair makes me smile. That whole mini section where they all meet, before they head to Fishman Island, oh gosh I was grinning so much (especially with Zoro's whole 'Pish, whatever you say, Number 8 to Sanji heee.) Recently I've been kinda, blegh, with all the flashbacks, but I'm sure it'll pick up again. I'm not used to reading it at a week to week basis anymore, so it;s weird to wait this long in between chapters haha.

(and sorry to blab a lot, but none of my other friends (in RL or the Internet) are really into One Piece, so I have all these ~feelings and no where to go lol)