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X-parrot ([personal profile] xparrot) wrote2008-09-17 11:04 am

pondering on pairings

How can you like a pairing when you hate one character in the pairing? Do any of you do this? I often have my favorite characters in a pairing (sometimes to the point that I'll stray from my OTP to see my favorite with others - for all I am obsessively McSheppist, I will on occasion indulge in Rodney/various-others, because it's fun to see Rodney getting love.) But even when I have a favorite, I'll still like the other character, else I wouldn't be able to understand what they see in each other. I don't think I've ever had a preferred pairing (not just romantic, friendship, either) that I actively disliked one member. How do you manage it, if you do? How do you explain your favorite char's tastes, if you can't see the appeal yourself? I'm genuinely curious; I can't figure out how it would satisfy me to read or write something like that (break-up fics aside. And I only like writing break-up fics, I don't like reading them...)

(...Brought on by a discussion with another SGA fan who detests Rodney but apparently reads McShep.)

(...while I'm at it, did anyone see The Scene in "Miller's Crossing" as Rodney selfishly and deliberately dumping the problem of feeding Todd onto John? I'd never encountered that interpretation before, and it kind of boggles me. What with Rodney begging John to let him sacrifice himself, and then trying to sneak around John's back later anyway. Yes, Rodney can be an arrogant ass, it's part of his charm. But there's more to him than that. I always saw John as the selfish one in "Miller's Crossing", not allowing his teammate to give up his own life - and I love John for that crazy selfishness, even if it was Rodney's choice; I love that John couldn't. But I didn't suspect that Rodney expected that - I thought he went to John partly to get his affairs in order, but mostly because he needed John's help to do it. Without John's orders, the Marines would've shot Todd the moment he laid a hand on Rodney, and that wouldn't have helped anyone. Rodney went to John prepared for an argument - but not for John's flat refusal. And I think he probably struggled to come to terms with what John did, but in the end forgave John, because John needed his acceptance, and Rodney understood why John did it, even if he couldn't have done the same. It never crossed my mind that he was actually manipulating John to kill for him. I wonder how arrogantly selfish that makes him in "The Shrine," then, taking up John's valuable time demanding comfort and beer, just because he's losing his mind...)

[identity profile] argosy.livejournal.com 2008-09-17 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Hee, yeah, how long ago was that post? And it's still burned in my memory because of the sheer level of wtf for me. I mean if you want to rewrite your own version of SGA in fic where Rodney and John are not friends, okay. But to claim that they are not friends on the show despite the mountain of canon that says that they are? The mind, it boggles.
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[personal profile] sholio 2008-09-17 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
I know! I don't think I'll ever forget it! I mean, if someone doesn't like John and/or Rodney, or enjoy watching their scenes together, that's certainly their prerogative. But just because you don't like a character relationship, to insist that it therefore doesn't exist at all despite the HUGE amount of canon evidence, with increasingly far-fetched rationalizations to explain away all of their many, many friendship scenes ... WHY?!

[identity profile] terribilita.livejournal.com 2008-09-18 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
God, I'm totally butting in here, but I know the exact post you're talking about too. And I remember reading agreements in the comments and my head almost exploded.