Really will have to watch it again to make any sort of sense of "Journey's End", but initial reactions:
Ahahah PSYYYCH!! Not gone! Not gone! Ten liiiiiives!
But...Donna. Oh Donna, oh Donna...I enjoyed the hell outa the episode, but I don't know if I totally love it, because it is so painful, and to rewatch it - to rewatch the whole season - when Donna is my favorite of the new Companions (probably of all of them, since I haven't seen many)...it might have hurt less if she'd actually died.
But she had her moment of glory - and lord what a moment, temping for the Doctor, at the controls, spilling technobabble and spinning Daleks about - and moreover - I was worried that Donna might be found to be a Time Lord all along, or part of the TARDIS. But no, her timeline was manipulated, but all we saw of Donna (save Doctor-Donna) was her herself - she has that strength, that potential, that brilliance. She still has it, Doctor or no, and something must bring it out again (I so wanted just a moment at the end, after the Doctor had stepped out the door...not even that she remembered him, but that she could...fix things, or something...)
That's what makes it so sad, because of all the Companions, Donna gained so much, so much of her brilliance was realized, being with the Doctor, and for her to lose that...no. Something has to spark it again - her mother and her grandfather, and also her, because it's Donna.
Oh, though, when Donna's grandfather opens the door, and the Doctor is holding her, with his heart breaking as it always does...
Also...it's still there, isn't it? The Doctor didn't erase it but block it off, and okay, yes, it will incinerate her if she remembers, but, still...if they ever really, really need the Doctor...
(Also, also, would like to declare, once and for all: Doctor Donna + Rodney McKay = CROSSOVER OTP OF THE UNIVERSE ZOMG.)
But other than ripping my heart out...other than that, the episode is best described as WHEEEEEEE!!!!!
With the reunions! of everyone! Jackie and Mickey!!! Mickey who might be off with Jack & Martha in Torchwood and reeeaaally now, I might have to watch it after all!
And hugs and hugs and Mickey & Jack and Donna shoves Sarah Jane out of the way to get Jack luvin', and the Doctor - and then the Doctor again! (without clothes!!! Donna might complain...me, not so much.)
Davros trying to destroy, not the world, not the universe, but the whole damn multiverse. RTD's last time writing a finale, and he was going out with a BANG because why the hell not! The multiverse! Top that!
(I have to say, having seen "Genesis of the Daleks", weird fake puppet though the original Davros was, he was creepier than the updated version somehow. The puppet vs CGI Yoda principle?)
Then, we have Daleks spinning like tops. Because, why not? And speaking German! EXTERMINIEREN!
gnine just pointed out that Dalek Kan (sp? Kahn? Khan? KHAAA~~N!) was a good Dalek, which was a twist I quite enjoyed...
Wasn't sure about the Rose-Doctor resolution, but in the end...I like it. I think I like it a lot, because the Doctor says exactly what I've always thought of Rose - that she was just what he needed at the time. But he has moved on - and meanwhile human-Doctor needed someone, and of everyone in his extended family, Rose was available, so. It's shippy to the max - and yet it's not at all; or rather it's more one-sided, that Rose loves him, and the Doctor loves her, but while the Doctor is Rose's Most Important Person, Rose isn't his...he'll miss her, but he can be happy she's happy, and he doesn't envy his other self...wouldn't give up all the many lives of travel left to him, for her or for anyone.
And best of all - all the Children of Time! Flying the TARDIS together - the 6 person crew it's meant to have!!! And Donna overseeing and Jackie's not allowed to touch and the TARDIS is TOWING THE EARTH and show, oh show - and hell yes, RTD, too - I <333333 YOU TO THE END OF TIME!
Last but not least - David Tennant exceptionally angstily gorgeous, y/y/oh yeah baby?
Ahahah PSYYYCH!! Not gone! Not gone! Ten liiiiiives!
But...Donna. Oh Donna, oh Donna...I enjoyed the hell outa the episode, but I don't know if I totally love it, because it is so painful, and to rewatch it - to rewatch the whole season - when Donna is my favorite of the new Companions (probably of all of them, since I haven't seen many)...it might have hurt less if she'd actually died.
But she had her moment of glory - and lord what a moment, temping for the Doctor, at the controls, spilling technobabble and spinning Daleks about - and moreover - I was worried that Donna might be found to be a Time Lord all along, or part of the TARDIS. But no, her timeline was manipulated, but all we saw of Donna (save Doctor-Donna) was her herself - she has that strength, that potential, that brilliance. She still has it, Doctor or no, and something must bring it out again (I so wanted just a moment at the end, after the Doctor had stepped out the door...not even that she remembered him, but that she could...fix things, or something...)
That's what makes it so sad, because of all the Companions, Donna gained so much, so much of her brilliance was realized, being with the Doctor, and for her to lose that...no. Something has to spark it again - her mother and her grandfather, and also her, because it's Donna.
Oh, though, when Donna's grandfather opens the door, and the Doctor is holding her, with his heart breaking as it always does...
Also...it's still there, isn't it? The Doctor didn't erase it but block it off, and okay, yes, it will incinerate her if she remembers, but, still...if they ever really, really need the Doctor...
(Also, also, would like to declare, once and for all: Doctor Donna + Rodney McKay = CROSSOVER OTP OF THE UNIVERSE ZOMG.)
But other than ripping my heart out...other than that, the episode is best described as WHEEEEEEE!!!!!
With the reunions! of everyone! Jackie and Mickey!!! Mickey who might be off with Jack & Martha in Torchwood and reeeaaally now, I might have to watch it after all!
And hugs and hugs and Mickey & Jack and Donna shoves Sarah Jane out of the way to get Jack luvin', and the Doctor - and then the Doctor again! (without clothes!!! Donna might complain...me, not so much.)
Davros trying to destroy, not the world, not the universe, but the whole damn multiverse. RTD's last time writing a finale, and he was going out with a BANG because why the hell not! The multiverse! Top that!
(I have to say, having seen "Genesis of the Daleks", weird fake puppet though the original Davros was, he was creepier than the updated version somehow. The puppet vs CGI Yoda principle?)
Then, we have Daleks spinning like tops. Because, why not? And speaking German! EXTERMINIEREN!
Wasn't sure about the Rose-Doctor resolution, but in the end...I like it. I think I like it a lot, because the Doctor says exactly what I've always thought of Rose - that she was just what he needed at the time. But he has moved on - and meanwhile human-Doctor needed someone, and of everyone in his extended family, Rose was available, so. It's shippy to the max - and yet it's not at all; or rather it's more one-sided, that Rose loves him, and the Doctor loves her, but while the Doctor is Rose's Most Important Person, Rose isn't his...he'll miss her, but he can be happy she's happy, and he doesn't envy his other self...wouldn't give up all the many lives of travel left to him, for her or for anyone.
And best of all - all the Children of Time! Flying the TARDIS together - the 6 person crew it's meant to have!!! And Donna overseeing and Jackie's not allowed to touch and the TARDIS is TOWING THE EARTH and show, oh show - and hell yes, RTD, too - I <333333 YOU TO THE END OF TIME!
Last but not least - David Tennant exceptionally angstily gorgeous, y/y/oh yeah baby?
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Date: 2008-07-06 07:49 pm (UTC)*hugs*
See, the finale showed that things can be FIXED; even things like Rose's impossible separation from the Doctor she loved, and - so. Donna? WILL BE FIXED.
I believe in fairies *claps hands*Because otherwise I'd be BROKEN and HURTING and that wouldn't be any fun.
Right now I'm just - sated and grinning and oh. Children of Time! The TARDIS flying like it was always supposed to, and the Doctor's family, all having found families of their own, and SAVING THE MULTIVERSE WHEE. I love it. It wins at EVERYTHING. ♥
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Date: 2008-07-07 06:09 am (UTC)And the multiverse saving, and towing the Earth - SO MUCH FUN! Wheeeee! Do need to watch it again - we need to watch it together!! <3
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Date: 2008-07-07 01:35 pm (UTC)It was so perfect! Sad, glorious angsty (DONNA!) but overall a kick ass episode (in my opinion). Thanks for perfectly stating why I loved this one so much!
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Date: 2008-07-07 04:01 pm (UTC)Doctor Donna + Rodney McKay
Reality may not handle all that smart snark and collapse, but it would probably be FUN ANYWAY.
weird fake puppet though the original Davros was, he was creepier than the updated version somehow
But isn't the new Davros better in ugly prosthetics, though? I've never seen the original so I don't know how much of a psycho he wa before, but this one looked and acted really messed up (ending the freaking MULTIVERSE made me go: "what the actual fuck?"), so it had that effect on me of being an unnatural bit of a fright. Brrr.
I like the episode just fine, but it lacked the happy crack to balance it out (towing the Earth is, while a really novel concept, doesn't seem as fun as STEALING IT OMG). I am overcome with the want to hug Donna and the Doctor to death. I'm completely happy for the part of Torchwood, though! :D
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Date: 2008-07-07 04:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-07-07 04:35 pm (UTC)Doctor Donna + Rodney McKay
Reality may not handle all that smart snark and collapse, but it would probably be FUN ANYWAY.
Totally the way to go!! XDDD
The original Davros looked a lot like this one, and was quite, quite insane, yes. It was a pretty faithful version...it's hard to explain it, quite, but in the original, for all the fakeness (and original Who's f/x are as ridiculously, entertainingly bad as everyone says), Davros in "Genesis of the Daleks" made my skin crawl. It was partly I think how he was a puppet, he pretty much didn't move except for twitches of his head and hand - it was bizarrely effective (I've only seen a smattering of original Who, but "Genesis" was one of my favorites, it's pretty dang good scifi, really...)
I thought the ep was LOTS of fun, but Donna's fate cast such a pall that I'm not sure even that much squee balances it out...must watch it again to be sure!
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Date: 2008-07-08 05:15 pm (UTC)Exactly! That is the best reason EVER to do something. I've yet to see the old-school Doctor Who because it's really, really hard to watch black and white TV >.< REALLY hard.
Doctor Donna/Rodney McKay would be SO AWESOME it would totally make reality collapse.
And when all of them were flying the TARDIS, all those amazing, wonderful Children of Time, it was just like Sarah Jane said. They're one big insane family and it's so sad that Donna can't be part of that anymore because you're all right. She grew SO MUCH as a person traveling with the Doctor and it's really cruel to take all that away and she could have done SO much... damn, I'm rambling now. Sorry, it's just that it's DONNA, you know?
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Date: 2008-07-08 05:27 pm (UTC)I might have to write a bit of Doctor Donna/Rodney. JUST BECAUSE. The implosion of reality would be cool!
And there's gotta be a way to get Donna back. Into that family. There just has to be! waaah!
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Date: 2008-07-08 06:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-07-13 02:32 am (UTC)I think, though, my heart belongs to Davros in this episode in all his cackling, crazy and sometimes insightful glory.
Could someone please speed up the release of the series 4 soundtrack because I desperately need the music playing during "Everyone Who Has Died Thanks to the Doctor" montage which was so wonderfully followed up by Davros taunting, if partially truthful assessment that the Doctor is the man who keeps running without looking back out of shame.
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Date: 2008-07-13 10:46 am (UTC)I need to watch the ep again just to pay attention to the music! The last couple seasons have had phenomenal soundtracks (I love me some good BGM and the s3 Who OST has some of my favorites...)