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xparrotSo as you might have heard, various pro fantasy authors (Diana Gabaldon, GRR Martin, and Katherine Kerr among them) have been speaking out about how fanfic is disrespectful to actual money-making authors (because you're not a real artist unless you're making a buck with your art), is illegal (because apparently copyright law is what they say it is, as opposed to what's actually on the books), immoral (and akin to rape and/or white slavery, because one's original characters are like one's children, and for someone else to dare write their names feels just like having your kids abducted and sexually abused), gross, and inherently inferior to original fiction.
Obviously I have a few mild opinions on the matter. But it's the last point that I keep getting stuck on. Putting aside![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
bookshop's straightforward rebuttal that there is an enormous amount of derivative/transformative literature out there by distinguished professional authors (Bill Shakespeare was such an immoral hack, you know), the fact is, fanfic is not the same as original fiction. A lot - the majority, perhaps - of fanfiction would not work as original fiction.
And it's not because fanfic is inherently bad fiction, or that fanfic writers are talentless wannabe authors who lack the creativity to write their own original characters/worlds. There are a lot of stories that, by their very nature, require that the reader already be familiar with the characters or the world.
Take the entire genre of Alternate Universe fics, which will put a cast of chars in a completely new setting - Kirk & Spock as high school students, Draco Malfoy as a private eye. Some of the pleasure of reading an AU is simply reading a story in which you can clearly picture the characters. But a lot of the enjoyment comes from seeing how these familiar characters fit into these new surroundings, seeing how their skills or traits translate to the different situation. For an AU to make sense, the readers need to know the chars well in their own setting. Therefore the only way you can write an actual original AU is to write a novel to establish the chars in their native universe, and then write AUs based on that (which some authors do - some of my favorite mangaka are very partial to it!). But you can't just write an AU cold. And if you're not a full-time author, if story-writing is your hobby and you don't have the time/energy to write an entire novel, then if you want to write an AU, it has to be based on someone else's characters. Or else a key component of the story will be lost to your readers.
It's not just AUs; there are many kinds of stories that depend on readers being familiar with the characters. Any story with a plot point that hinges on challenging the reader's expectations, needs to be certain that a reader has those expectations. If you're writing a novel, you can set up characters and situations such that readers will start making assumptions. That's a lot harder to do in a short story, and often isn't possible at all when it comes to complex emotional situations. It's show vs tell - "telling" doesn't really inspire feelings in a reader, "showing" is crucial for emotional engagement. But it takes a lot of words to, say, convincingly show a friendship developing. If you want to write a story featuring a change in an already existing friendship (say, the pathos of two friends parting ways), then you need a friendship that the readers are going to care about. Sure, you can write a short story beginning with "X & Y were best friends," and then tell about how they separate - but it's unlikely to move readers much, when they don't know or care about the chars or their friendship. Or, if you have the time and energy, you can write a novel about two people becoming friends, and then write your story. Or you can write a story about two people who you already know your readers will accept as friends.
This is just as true on the reader's side. If I want to read a story about two friends, yes, sometimes I want to read a whole novel on the development of a friendship. But sometimes I'm in the mood for something shorter. Derivative works allow a reader to have their cake and eat it, too.
(And yes, I suspect this is why so much of fanfic is erotic, because a lot of people will get in the mood for something short and satisfying - and women especially tend to enjoy reading about sex more when it has an emotional component. The vast majority of erotic fanfic simply would not be as successful fiction as original stories, because part of the pleasure the reader takes is in seeing the consummation of an already-existing relationship, but at the same time when someone wants to read good porn they don't necessarily want to have to read hundred of pages of non-porn in order to be satisfied. If you want to argue that erotic fiction is fundamentally inferior to other kinds of fiction, that's a whole other argument I can't speak to, but to dismiss erotic fanfic as inferior to original erotic fiction is to dismiss an aspect of sexuality for many.)
A lot of these scenarios hinge on accepting that reading and writing primarily for entertainment is a valid activity. I'd think that most fantasy writers wouldn't argue this case, considering that none of the writers I've seen speaking out are known for writing meaningful, life-changing literature. But even if you believe that the only Good literature is that which is thematically important and significant, then derivative works can be as Good fiction as any other type. There are still some themes which are easier to explore in a derivative work, or even impossible to explore otherwise - a transformative novel like Wide Sargasso Sea critiques Jane Eyre and its themes and cannot function apart from its original; so, too, does some fanfic critique and illuminate problematic themes in its inspiration.
Not all fanfic is so meaningful - but then, neither are all published novels. But professional authors who write transformative works do so for the same reasons fanfic writers do: because there are stories which work better, or only work, as derivatives of other fiction. That certain types of stories can only be told as derivative works - as fanfic - means that you must accept fanfic as a legitimate form of fiction (whether or not you like it personally, or have any interest in writing or reading it), and fanfic writers as legitimate authors - or else you must deny an entire aspect of literary tradition.
Obviously I have a few mild opinions on the matter. But it's the last point that I keep getting stuck on. Putting aside
bookshop's straightforward rebuttal that there is an enormous amount of derivative/transformative literature out there by distinguished professional authors (Bill Shakespeare was such an immoral hack, you know), the fact is, fanfic is not the same as original fiction. A lot - the majority, perhaps - of fanfiction would not work as original fiction.And it's not because fanfic is inherently bad fiction, or that fanfic writers are talentless wannabe authors who lack the creativity to write their own original characters/worlds. There are a lot of stories that, by their very nature, require that the reader already be familiar with the characters or the world.
Take the entire genre of Alternate Universe fics, which will put a cast of chars in a completely new setting - Kirk & Spock as high school students, Draco Malfoy as a private eye. Some of the pleasure of reading an AU is simply reading a story in which you can clearly picture the characters. But a lot of the enjoyment comes from seeing how these familiar characters fit into these new surroundings, seeing how their skills or traits translate to the different situation. For an AU to make sense, the readers need to know the chars well in their own setting. Therefore the only way you can write an actual original AU is to write a novel to establish the chars in their native universe, and then write AUs based on that (which some authors do - some of my favorite mangaka are very partial to it!). But you can't just write an AU cold. And if you're not a full-time author, if story-writing is your hobby and you don't have the time/energy to write an entire novel, then if you want to write an AU, it has to be based on someone else's characters. Or else a key component of the story will be lost to your readers.
It's not just AUs; there are many kinds of stories that depend on readers being familiar with the characters. Any story with a plot point that hinges on challenging the reader's expectations, needs to be certain that a reader has those expectations. If you're writing a novel, you can set up characters and situations such that readers will start making assumptions. That's a lot harder to do in a short story, and often isn't possible at all when it comes to complex emotional situations. It's show vs tell - "telling" doesn't really inspire feelings in a reader, "showing" is crucial for emotional engagement. But it takes a lot of words to, say, convincingly show a friendship developing. If you want to write a story featuring a change in an already existing friendship (say, the pathos of two friends parting ways), then you need a friendship that the readers are going to care about. Sure, you can write a short story beginning with "X & Y were best friends," and then tell about how they separate - but it's unlikely to move readers much, when they don't know or care about the chars or their friendship. Or, if you have the time and energy, you can write a novel about two people becoming friends, and then write your story. Or you can write a story about two people who you already know your readers will accept as friends.
This is just as true on the reader's side. If I want to read a story about two friends, yes, sometimes I want to read a whole novel on the development of a friendship. But sometimes I'm in the mood for something shorter. Derivative works allow a reader to have their cake and eat it, too.
(And yes, I suspect this is why so much of fanfic is erotic, because a lot of people will get in the mood for something short and satisfying - and women especially tend to enjoy reading about sex more when it has an emotional component. The vast majority of erotic fanfic simply would not be as successful fiction as original stories, because part of the pleasure the reader takes is in seeing the consummation of an already-existing relationship, but at the same time when someone wants to read good porn they don't necessarily want to have to read hundred of pages of non-porn in order to be satisfied. If you want to argue that erotic fiction is fundamentally inferior to other kinds of fiction, that's a whole other argument I can't speak to, but to dismiss erotic fanfic as inferior to original erotic fiction is to dismiss an aspect of sexuality for many.)
A lot of these scenarios hinge on accepting that reading and writing primarily for entertainment is a valid activity. I'd think that most fantasy writers wouldn't argue this case, considering that none of the writers I've seen speaking out are known for writing meaningful, life-changing literature. But even if you believe that the only Good literature is that which is thematically important and significant, then derivative works can be as Good fiction as any other type. There are still some themes which are easier to explore in a derivative work, or even impossible to explore otherwise - a transformative novel like Wide Sargasso Sea critiques Jane Eyre and its themes and cannot function apart from its original; so, too, does some fanfic critique and illuminate problematic themes in its inspiration.
Not all fanfic is so meaningful - but then, neither are all published novels. But professional authors who write transformative works do so for the same reasons fanfic writers do: because there are stories which work better, or only work, as derivatives of other fiction. That certain types of stories can only be told as derivative works - as fanfic - means that you must accept fanfic as a legitimate form of fiction (whether or not you like it personally, or have any interest in writing or reading it), and fanfic writers as legitimate authors - or else you must deny an entire aspect of literary tradition.
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Date: 2010-05-14 06:44 pm (UTC)(He also is of the opinion that other people playing with his toys is gross and a violation, so no, I don't get why he'd authorize an RPG on that level. Except to make money, of course, which is the important thing! :P)
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Date: 2010-05-15 03:55 am (UTC)I did try reading though GRRM's whole post and was reminded that I don't like his writing at all anyway :p But, that aside, most of his arguments seemed to be the "Oh my god lets throw up a bunch of stuff - something has to stick!!" I enjoyed the rebuttal :)
I still think he has drawn an odd line for playing in his sandbox. 'Course the line he drew made him more money :p I do know that GR had to jump though hoops to make everything line up with what he wanted for the books.
I think I like M Lackey's and J Butcher's take on fic now :) Seems to me to be a much saner approach. Why tell your fans that they are horrible people for loving your characters and wanting to see more of them ;p
I think I should go get ready for bed before A comes back down and drags me away from the compy <3
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Date: 2010-05-15 04:15 am (UTC)That the RPG is authorized is something - except that fanfic isn't authorized and that's kind of the point. Fanfic is *not* canon. A lot of the fanfic I read and love, I wouldn't *want* to see as canon. If I want to read the original creator's take on some chars, then I read/watch the canon. I go to fanfic when I want something *else*. And I resent an author like GRRM telling me that I am wrong and a bad fan for wanting something else sometimes!
Ah well, GRRM's whole argument is specious. According to him, encouraging fanfic is a bad business decision which will lead to an author's ruin. The best example of this is of course Harry Potter - JK Rowling didn't forbid fanfic, and now HP is the most-ficced-for book series ever, while poor Rowling is dying in poverty...
...OH WAIT.
Yay for Jim Butcher's policy, and Mercedes Lackey finally coming around!
--now go to bed, g'night~! (and say hi to A&A from me ^^)