Ah, yeah, I get feeling awkward talking about porn reading and writing preferences; I totally think you could do it without messing with anyone's enjoyment, and I would love to read and discuss that post, though. But we can also discuss it here for now. :-)
Personally, I've stopped feeling embarrassed by liking porn, probably because at this point, I've written so much of it. I do remember feeling embarrassed while writing it in the beginning, though... man, that was a long time ago. ;-)
It's funny, I have a lot of OTPs that I happily see as either gen or a ship; the sex is inconsequential one way or another to what I enjoy in the relationship.
Ooh, that's interesting! I am a fannish romancer, myself; I only get into a fandom when I have an OTP (rather than, say, a single character that I love, or an ensemble cast that I love without shipping any of them). Without an OTP, I will love the canon - possibly very heatedly and enduringly - but I will probably never look for fanfic at all, and not get into fandom. I do read gen fanfic, but it has to relate to my OTP in some way... and actually, *this* is something that I am somewhat embarrassed about today; that I don't really want to read even the most excellent gen unless it brushes or leads up to romance, or is about backstory or the like.
But while I do always want my OTP's romance to include sex, I don't need to have it shown on-screen - although I can and do really enjoy that, too, if it gives me what I want from it beyond the mechanics.
WeiLan is one of those; physical desire is just part of their connection, in my mind. But it's not something I need to see realized to be satisfied -- I'm basically okay that we don't get to see them kiss in the show
Yes!! I am the same. I absolutely think that their relationship extends to the physical. I mean - Shen Wei's stares! He wants *everything* from Zhao Yunlan. His body is just a (debatably sized) part of that, but it is definitely part of it. But I also feel that what canon shows of the relationship is absolutely satisfactory. It expresses the same emotion that a more overtly sexual action would - for example, the way they stand close and gaze at each other with complete concentration and fascination is pretty much like the most intense kiss ever. So I don't need to see it either. :-)
why am I coming up with stories that require porny details, rather than other ideas?? It's just odd!
It really is! If there are several such stories at this point, is there a common denominator that might give you a hint? What do the porny scenes have in common, other than the porniness? What function do they serve in the plot and how do they influence the characters and the rerationship, for example?
And OMG, I am experiencing the exact opposite phenomenon. Seriously, a few weeks back I tried to come up with a plot idea that would pretty much *have* to include sex. So I thought, okay, undercover in a sex club or hookers - both of those are pretty fail-safe in terms of getting the OTP to have sex, right? And then I proceeded to hammer out the details in my head and realized - WOW. They would almost certainly be completely unable to have sex in this hooker story. *headdesk*
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Re: writing sex and angst (and being a fannish romancer)
Date: 2020-04-23 01:19 am (UTC)Personally, I've stopped feeling embarrassed by liking porn, probably because at this point, I've written so much of it. I do remember feeling embarrassed while writing it in the beginning, though... man, that was a long time ago. ;-)
It's funny, I have a lot of OTPs that I happily see as either gen or a ship; the sex is inconsequential one way or another to what I enjoy in the relationship.
Ooh, that's interesting! I am a fannish romancer, myself; I only get into a fandom when I have an OTP (rather than, say, a single character that I love, or an ensemble cast that I love without shipping any of them). Without an OTP, I will love the canon - possibly very heatedly and enduringly - but I will probably never look for fanfic at all, and not get into fandom. I do read gen fanfic, but it has to relate to my OTP in some way... and actually, *this* is something that I am somewhat embarrassed about today; that I don't really want to read even the most excellent gen unless it brushes or leads up to romance, or is about backstory or the like.
But while I do always want my OTP's romance to include sex, I don't need to have it shown on-screen - although I can and do really enjoy that, too, if it gives me what I want from it beyond the mechanics.
WeiLan is one of those; physical desire is just part of their connection, in my mind. But it's not something I need to see realized to be satisfied -- I'm basically okay that we don't get to see them kiss in the show
Yes!! I am the same. I absolutely think that their relationship extends to the physical. I mean - Shen Wei's stares! He wants *everything* from Zhao Yunlan. His body is just a (debatably sized) part of that, but it is definitely part of it. But I also feel that what canon shows of the relationship is absolutely satisfactory. It expresses the same emotion that a more overtly sexual action would - for example, the way they stand close and gaze at each other with complete concentration and fascination is pretty much like the most intense kiss ever. So I don't need to see it either. :-)
why am I coming up with stories that require porny details, rather than other ideas?? It's just odd!
It really is! If there are several such stories at this point, is there a common denominator that might give you a hint? What do the porny scenes have in common, other than the porniness? What function do they serve in the plot and how do they influence the characters and the rerationship, for example?
And OMG, I am experiencing the exact opposite phenomenon. Seriously, a few weeks back I tried to come up with a plot idea that would pretty much *have* to include sex. So I thought, okay, undercover in a sex club or hookers - both of those are pretty fail-safe in terms of getting the OTP to have sex, right? And then I proceeded to hammer out the details in my head and realized - WOW. They would almost certainly be completely unable to have sex in this hooker story. *headdesk*