Ooh, that's interesting! I am a fannish romancer, myself; I only get
into a fandom when I have an OTP (rather than, say, a single character that
I love, or an ensemble cast that I love without shipping any of them).
Without an OTP, I will love the canon - possibly very heatedly and
enduringly - but I will probably never look for fanfic at all, and not get
into fandom. I do read gen fanfic, but it has to relate to my OTP in some
way...
See, this is why I say I'm a bad gen fan, because I get this completely,
it's true for me as well! I have a lot of ensemble shows, books etc I love
and I'm a fan of, but it's a different type of fanning than what I read and
write fic for. Of the fandoms I've written more than one or two fic for,
they're usually for a single relationship in that fandom. It's just for me
this relationship doesn't have to be romantic; but I generally still want
it to be the most important relationship to the characters. Like, I'm very
into codependent sibling relationships that aren't incest but are unusually
close/obsessive (I've been a Supernatural fan since season 1, long before
Castiel existed!)
In all honesty, I started out in fandom as a gen only fan but got into
slash/romantic shipping mostly because it was a good way to make sure my
favorites wouldn't end up with someone else more important to them 😅 And
yes, this is why I love h/c, because it's a great way to explore this kind
of closeness but doesn't depend on romance.
And yeah, the not really wanting to read/write non-OTP fic...haaah it me.
Even when I have a favorite character, it's still about the relationship
for me really. Like, I love Shen Wei the most...but I'm mostly interested
in reading about him in relation to Zhao Yunlan; in fact one of the reasons
I love Shen Wei so much is because he is so wrapped up in Zhao Yunlan that
you can't really separate them. Even when I wrote 10k of SW/other, the
whole underlying theme is that Zhao Yunlan is the one for him 😅
If there are several such stories at this point, is there a common
denominator that might give you a hint? What do the porny scenes have in
common, other than the porniness? What function do they serve in the plot
and how do they influence the characters and the rerationship, for
example?
Oh I did not think of analyzing it so closely! Hmmm... Well, most of the
porn I've written now is in my Dixing pon farr continuity. So it's really a
version of h/c, putting them back together, fixing some of Shen Wei's
intimacy issues. But then I was thinking about how all my smut has been h/c
and so came up with an idea that wasn't...though that one is comedy instead
(both of them tormenting each other 😅) I still don't have ideas that are
just straight smut for the sake of hotness...
So I thought, okay, undercover in a sex club or hookers - both of those
are pretty fail-safe in terms of getting the OTP to have sex, right? And
then I proceeded to hammer out the details in my head and realized - WOW.
They would almost certainly be completely unable to have sex in this hooker
story.
Ahahah if only we could switch brains! But FWIW I would be so into a hooker
story with no sex, so if you did feel like writing it... 😆 (What about
your idea for demi Zhao Yunlan, could that bring in the sex?)
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Re: writing sex and angst (and being a fannish romancer)
Date: 2020-04-23 11:45 pm (UTC)Ooh, that's interesting! I am a fannish romancer, myself; I only get into a fandom when I have an OTP (rather than, say, a single character that I love, or an ensemble cast that I love without shipping any of them). Without an OTP, I will love the canon - possibly very heatedly and enduringly - but I will probably never look for fanfic at all, and not get into fandom. I do read gen fanfic, but it has to relate to my OTP in some way...
See, this is why I say I'm a bad gen fan, because I get this completely, it's true for me as well! I have a lot of ensemble shows, books etc I love and I'm a fan of, but it's a different type of fanning than what I read and write fic for. Of the fandoms I've written more than one or two fic for, they're usually for a single relationship in that fandom. It's just for me this relationship doesn't have to be romantic; but I generally still want it to be the most important relationship to the characters. Like, I'm very into codependent sibling relationships that aren't incest but are unusually close/obsessive (I've been a Supernatural fan since season 1, long before Castiel existed!)
In all honesty, I started out in fandom as a gen only fan but got into slash/romantic shipping mostly because it was a good way to make sure my favorites wouldn't end up with someone else more important to them 😅 And yes, this is why I love h/c, because it's a great way to explore this kind of closeness but doesn't depend on romance.
And yeah, the not really wanting to read/write non-OTP fic...haaah it me. Even when I have a favorite character, it's still about the relationship for me really. Like, I love Shen Wei the most...but I'm mostly interested in reading about him in relation to Zhao Yunlan; in fact one of the reasons I love Shen Wei so much is because he is so wrapped up in Zhao Yunlan that you can't really separate them. Even when I wrote 10k of SW/other, the whole underlying theme is that Zhao Yunlan is the one for him 😅
If there are several such stories at this point, is there a common denominator that might give you a hint? What do the porny scenes have in common, other than the porniness? What function do they serve in the plot and how do they influence the characters and the rerationship, for example?
Oh I did not think of analyzing it so closely! Hmmm... Well, most of the porn I've written now is in my Dixing pon farr continuity. So it's really a version of h/c, putting them back together, fixing some of Shen Wei's intimacy issues. But then I was thinking about how all my smut has been h/c and so came up with an idea that wasn't...though that one is comedy instead (both of them tormenting each other 😅) I still don't have ideas that are just straight smut for the sake of hotness...
So I thought, okay, undercover in a sex club or hookers - both of those are pretty fail-safe in terms of getting the OTP to have sex, right? And then I proceeded to hammer out the details in my head and realized - WOW. They would almost certainly be completely unable to have sex in this hooker story.
Ahahah if only we could switch brains! But FWIW I would be so into a hooker story with no sex, so if you did feel like writing it... 😆 (What about your idea for demi Zhao Yunlan, could that bring in the sex?)