xparrot: Chopper reading (sga rodney the things i have done)
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My last post got into a discussion on this, and then I started piling on comments on [livejournal.com profile] seperis's post, so I figure I should make my own post. It's either that or write a fic, and as [livejournal.com profile] naye and [livejournal.com profile] gnine informed me, I have way too many other things I ought to be writing. (Though I might anyway. In which case this will be a warm-up.)

So in several reviews of "Last Man" I've seen a particular interpretation of canon come up, that apparently ticked off a lot of other McSheppers, to the point that many dislike the episode. To wit: resentment that "Rodney didn't even try to bring Sheppard home until he realized Keller was going to die. Great way to forget about the team and concentrate on a forced romance" and "John just became a tool to save Keller".

What's odd to me is that I didn't see it this way at all. In fact, it honestly didn't even occur to me that it could be seen this way until I started seeing the interpretation on other posts, and folks agreeing. To me, "Last Man" is one of the McSheppiest eps of the entire show.

I saw very little romance or 'true love' between Rodney & Jennifer, just two people holding onto one another and the last bit of happiness they could find. It was hard for me to see Rodney as loving Keller when he never says "love," to Sheppard or to her, even at the end; when neither of them are wearing rings; when he so blithely ignored her last wishes, and exhibits absolutely zero angst at the prospect of never getting together with her - just excitement that the circumstances that brought them together would never occur. He's talking to her on her deathbed, telling her that what made "us" happen will never happen, and he looks thrilled. Yes, he's telling her that she'll live - as part of a list: "I'm going to make it so none of this ever happened - you won't get sick, Teyla won't die, Michael won't complete his research, none of it." Of course he mentions her first - she's on her deathbed! But saving Jennifer's life isn't the point, it's a happy byproduct. (I think it's important that Jennifer's death is a direct consequence of Pegasus - if she had died of cancer or a car accident, then Rodney fetching John to save her might've been harder to take. But Keller was yet another victim of everything he's trying to put right.)

I don't see Keller's death as Rodney's motivation, but the catalyst. It's the final straw, as Joe Mallozzi says (he's not the writer, that was Mullie for this ep, but considering how closely the writers work together he can probably speak for all of them):

Jennifer’s death isn’t the only reason Rodney decides to try to undo the timeline. But it is the final straw. Prior to that, he considered the possibility that he could actually come up with a solution next to impossible. But, with Jennifer dead, the last positive thing in his life died with her and he was finally able to wholly commit himself to the seemingly impossible task.

This reads differently to different fans. To me, Keller's death is what snaps Rodney, finally breaks him - and he needed to be broken, to come up with the plan he devised. "That's when I had my idea". Not that he had the idea all along and rejected it; it had never occurred to Rodney how to do it before (given the pressure he was under, that's hardly surprising.) Once he does figure out how, once he gets that lunatic inspiration, nothing stops him, not Jennifer's deathbed plea, not Jeannie's concerns.

It's not like Rodney knew how to save Sheppard but was too lazy to get around to it until Keller died. The episode never implies that Rodney decided that Sheppard wasn't worth the effort, but Keller was. Saving Sheppard and the rest of the galaxy wasn't just a matter of hard work; it was a feat that everyone believed was impossible. Including Rodney himself - and Rodney no longer had the one person who always pushes him to do the impossible. John wasn't there. And Rodney, after failing to save friend after friend after friend, probably had little confidence that he could ever manage such a thing. Until it got to be so bad that he couldn't take the failure anymore, and cracked. "I thought I was going to lose my mind...and that's when I had my idea." That's just semantics - his idea is insanity; his mind is lost. Only an insane man believes he can rewrite history, can bring the dead back to life.

Jennifer's death was the straw that broke him - but it didn't have to be that. A lot of folks seem disturbed that if Jennifer hadn't died, Rodney wouldn't have saved John. I didn't see that. Rodney's fragile, in all the flashbacks (from the moment John's declared KIA - and Rodney refuses to call him dead, even a year later, even helpless to save him) until that flash of inspiration; he's a shadow of his true self, quiet and somber, calm (Rodney? Calm? Ever?) - beaten down; reduced. His holographic persona tells John, of him and Jennifer, "It was great" - but a very conditional "great" that seems, a brief moment, less than a year, that they both try to find happiness. Would it have lasted, even if Jennifer had lived? Would he truly have been able to put Pegasus behind him? We don't know - we don't see. I don't think it would have taken much more to break him - and if something else had sparked that inspiration, he would've turned his back on Keller, as he did with Jeannie.

There was no particular emphasis on Rodney/Jennifer in the episode. It was one event of many (and an event Rodney didn't even care to mention to Sheppard, until pushed; an event that he had no particular wish to have remembered). It's the final straw by virtue of there being nothing else left - Rodney loses John, Teyla, Ronon, Sam, and Atlantis before Keller. (One can argue those things are going from most to least important...) If Keller had died first, right after John, would Rodney have had his brilliant stroke of madness then? Or would it still have been after everything else, after he'd been driven to the edge and then off it? I could see the episode playing out with any of them being that catalyst; it's only Jennifer because she lasted the longest.

If Keller's life really had been the most significant thing to Rodney, wouldn't he have mentioned her death to Sheppard earlier? Gone to the trouble of specifying how to save her, to keep her away from the Hoffan drug? That info's presumably on the data crystal with everything else, but it's not important enough for him to mention until Sheppard pushes him on it. He doesn't mention Keller (he refers to "Jennifer" once, early on, but that's it) until the end, and then - he has boatloads of regrets, but no regrets about possibly never hooking up with her.

Of course, John's reaction to hearing about Rodney & Jennifer had to be one of the most frighteningly romantic things I've ever seen. He's heard that the team died, Atlantis was lost, Pegasus fell to Michael - and he still hesitates about changing the timeline, if it's going to screw up Rodney's happiness. I mean, it's one thing when you love someone enough to let them go and find happiness with someone else - it's another thing to love someone so much you are willing to let an entire galaxy fall for them. And that's what John offers. Man! Oh, John, the depth of your love is terrifying.

But is Rodney's any less? What gets me is the trust Rodney has - John is the key to his brilliant idea, the linchpin of the entire plan. Rodney believes that if he can save John, the galaxy will be saved - that John will be able to save them all. And yes, he's going to tell John what to do, what to stop, but he utterly trusts that John can do it.

And the sacrifice Rodney makes is incredible. Twenty-five years and everyone who's left, even his sister, finally has to abandon him to his madness, but "I never wavered." It's one thing to give your life for your friend's in a brief, impulsive blaze of glory. It's another thing to live, alone and obsessed and never faltering, for over two decades - when everyone is telling you that what you're attempting is impossible; when, even if you succeed - you'll never actually know. Rodney's plan was such that he knew that he would never see John again himself - that the universe he was saving, he was saving for another Rodney in another timeline. It's a sacrifice that John himself never would have asked Rodney to make - never would have wanted him to make (though I don't know if John fully realizes that, alternate timelines are hard to wrap one's head around, and John's got a lot on his mind). I guess, maybe, Rodney could have spent those twenty-five years thinking about Keller, about saving her. But that's not exactly the impression I got. (One would think he'd have a picture or two of her around for inspiration, in that case.)

He's not doing it just for John, no; he's doing it for all of them, for two galaxies (hey, it's Rodney McKay; he never thinks small.) But John's the one he's counting on to save all of them, to make his sacrifice worthwhile. Now or twenty-five or forty-eight thousand years in the future, they're a team, and together they do the impossible, even when no one else believes it can be done.

(And one last thought - now with added McSheppiness!)
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Date: 2008-03-10 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dovil.livejournal.com
Thank god! I'm lazy and inarticulate so the fact that you took what I was thinking and put it into words, what a relief! But yes, that's pretty much exactly what I took from that episode as well.

Er...may have gotten carried away...sorry...

Date: 2008-03-10 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadesfire.livejournal.com
Save the cheerleader colonel, save the world!

Oops, sorry, wrong fandom ;)

I'm blinking at the posts you've linked to, just because it's not a POV I can get my head around. In Torchwood (my other big fandom) the slash is canon, and people get ticked off at it. Here, the slash isn't canon and people get ticked off at it.

I'd've been really disappointed if Rodney's sole motivation in changing the timeline was to save Sheppard. But he thinks bigger than that, because that's what heroes do. He needs Sheppard to save the day, he wants Sheppard to come back, and the fact that there's a higher cause doesn't negate his strong emotional reactions, both to Keller's death and seeing Sheppard again. It just sets especially the latter in a bigger context, where he's doing what he's doing to save a galaxy from being brought to its knees. To stop people from dying. I love that they found a way to make it character-driven without sacrificing the plot.

Rodney's personal losses drive him to change things, and yes, it's a distinct possibility that if Keller had never died, he never would have saved Sheppard. Or he might have had his big idea through something else and lost her through his work. *shrugs* I absolutely loved that he was willing to sacrifice that smidgen of happiness to save everyone, and that Sheppard acknowledges. They've given the characters deeper emotional lives (at times) this season, and it's paying dividends. Like you, I loved what they did.

Date: 2008-03-10 08:41 pm (UTC)
naye: A cartoon of a woman with red hair and glasses in front of a progressive pride flag. (atlantis - family)
From: [personal profile] naye
This is a gorgeous piece of meta, and I wish I had something of substance to add to it, but - talking on the phone today I already said most of it, I think.

All of it, except this - it's one thing to give your life for your friend's in a brief, impulsive blaze of glory. It's another thing to live, alone and obsessed and never faltering, for over two decades - when everyone is telling you that what you're attempting is impossible;

It's so heartbreakingly true. When it comes to fiction and romance, it seems "I'd die for you" is the ultimate proof of devotion, but really? Dying you can get over with pretty quickly. It's living that is really difficult. And making an active choice to live alone, sacrifice the rest of your life on the altar of an impossible hope, a hope the few people you have left in your life beg you to give up? It speaks such incredible volumes about the depths of Rodney's love for his friends, all his friends, all the ones he couldn't save, and for his city, and for the galaxy he wanted to protect.

Thanks for writing this. This is the episode I watched, and the emotions I felt, and the characters I love. It rings true to my very core.



(Also, your icon? Rodney! Rodney, Rodney, Rodney, Rodney~! *squee*)
Edited Date: 2008-03-10 08:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-10 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jujuberry136.livejournal.com
I think you brought up some great points- especially regarding the idea of Jennifer dying as a catalyst rather than a cause. Because even though we (the audience) can so obviously see how Rodney would be able to figure out how to save John, it isn't rational. Only when he has nothing else to lose (and no one there ALL the time to tell him to stop) does he give up on the sane plans and move to the insane one.

Thanks for the insight! It was great.

Date: 2008-03-10 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] equusentric.livejournal.com
I admit that I was one of the gloom&doom group. You make a valid point, though, and I will keep it in mind when I rewatch it.

he still hesitates about changing the timeline, if it's going to screw up Rodney's happiness.

Out of all the sadness of the episode, this is what actually yanked the tears into my eyes. John's love for Rodney is ferociously boundless. ♥

Date: 2008-03-10 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinigrace.livejournal.com
Thank you. I was becoming a bit annoyed with the 'john became a tool to save keller' sentiment. I liked this episode a lot actually, simply for the fact that it broke my heart to see Rodney like that... he was so subdued. *worships your icon*

Date: 2008-03-10 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darlulu.livejournal.com
Jennifer's death was the straw that broke him - but it didn't have to be that. A lot of folks seem disturbed that if Jennifer hadn't died, Rodney wouldn't have saved John. I didn't see that.

I didn't either. If Jennifer had lived, I think she would've still wound up as nothing more than an interlude with Rodney eventually being driven to correct the timeline and her ultimately turning away from his obsessive self.

If Keller had died first, right after John, would Rodney have had his brilliant stroke of madness then? Or would it still have been after everything else, after he'd been driven to the edge and then off it? I could see the episode playing out with any of them being that catalyst; it's only Jennifer because she lasted the longest.

I completely agree, and honestly don't get whey some fans are deducing that Rodney's epiphany had to do with losing Jennifer personally instead of losing the last link he had to Atlantis.

Date: 2008-03-10 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darlulu.livejournal.com
Also: this bit -

It's one thing to give your life for your friend's in a brief, impulsive blaze of glory. It's another thing to live, alone and obsessed and never faltering, for over two decades - when everyone is telling you that what you're attempting is impossible; when, even if you succeed - you'll never actually know.

is so, so true and makes what Rodney did so extraordinary. What heroism we've seen from the other characters on the show thus far have almost entirely fallen under the implusive blazes of glory category. The original Elizabeth being the only exception, although her experience was quite different from Rodney's in that she got to execute her plan in short order and escape to the stasis chamber for the duration before ultimately witnessing the fruits of her labor.

Date: 2008-03-10 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trystings.livejournal.com
You wrote (far more eloquently) what I was thinking. When I watched the episode I saw a person dedicating twenty five years of his life to bring his friend back from the future to correct a timeline that had spiraled out of control. Yes, perhaps Keller's death was the last straw in this scenario, but it could have been anything: Michael's hybrids reaching Earth, Jeannie or Madison dying from the Hoffan virus, anything.

And Rodney seems almost apologetic about his relationship with Keller, emphasizing to Sheppard how the circumstances drove them together. He even tells Sheppard he's counting on the two of them not getting together, once Sheppard fixes the timeline. So I think, even if Keller had lived, Rodney would still have preferred the other reality, where Sheppard comes back and everyone survives, and he would have sacrificed his relationship with Keller to put things right.

Date: 2008-03-10 11:24 pm (UTC)
sholio: sun on winter trees (Default)
From: [personal profile] sholio
It kinda goes without saying that I agree with pretty much all of this, and it made fascinating reading. :D

It's one thing to give your life for your friend's in a brief, impulsive blaze of glory. It's another thing to live, alone and obsessed and never faltering, for over two decades - when everyone is telling you that what you're attempting is impossible; when, even if you succeed - you'll never actually know.

And ...

He's heard that the team died, Atlantis was lost, Pegasus fell to Michael - and he still hesitates about changing the timeline, if it's going to screw up Rodney's happiness. I mean, it's one thing when you love someone enough to let them go and find happiness with someone else - it's another thing to love someone so much you are willing to let an entire galaxy fall for them. And that's what John offers. Man! Oh, John, the depth of your love is terrifying.

Yes.

It's just amazing, the depth of feeling that was expressed in this episode -- Rodney's incredible sacrifice, not just for John but for everyone, for his friends and family and city and home ... and John, in his way, reciprocating with worry for Rodney's happiness even in the face of all they stand to lose if he doesn't go back.

I'm not into Great Epic Love(TM) ... but, man, it doesn't take much tweaking to make this episode a Great Epic Love Story.

Date: 2008-03-10 11:41 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Desert Sheppard by sgflutegirl)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
I just want to say a very heartfelt "thank you" for this post - I was beginning to feel very alone in a very baffling fandom that had seen a completely different episode.

more on "Last Man"

Date: 2008-03-11 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maxinemayer.livejournal.com
I've said it elsewhere but it bears repeating: it could have been Rodney simply going back to earth in defeat and misery, to mourn for a year, without Keller being involved at all! I never got the impression that Keller's death was in any way the *inspiration* for Rodney's 25 year quest to bring John back and save Teyla and the Pegasus Galaxy. Only that it was at the point of her death that his idea came to him!

In no way did Rodney's year of a relationship with Keller impress me as central or even particularly important to Rodney, in context of the entire episode "The Last Man." What was central, epic, was Rodney's 25 year quest to bring back John Sheppard! Whether you view this as a "romantic" or "Platonic" love, it was *love* and of an incredibly grand sort! It seems to me that the episode leads to that conclusion.

So, having said that, I want to say I agree with your evaluation and love how well you express what I believe! Thank you for sharing.
Love, max

Date: 2008-03-11 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] argosy.livejournal.com
I can (and do) hold completely contradictory ideas in my head about this. I love the Rodney/Jennifer love story with a kind of unholy passion and I am perfectly willing to see it as true love forever. Otoh, I am a McShepper through and through and I love the slashy interpretation of Last Man, too. And come on? 25 years? No way that isn't undying love. :)

So I'm perfectly happy to um, swing both ways. And maybe a third way: I don't see why Rodney can't love them both completely. ♥

Date: 2008-03-11 05:42 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga team)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Glad to know I'm not alone - I genuinely find it weird that so many others took it badly!

Date: 2008-03-11 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dovil.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm surprised as well. The episode is the ultimate love letter from Rodney to every relationship he had in Atlantis and to the Pegasus Galaxy to boot. What's not to like? :)

Re: Er...may have gotten carried away...sorry...

Date: 2008-03-11 05:49 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga team)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
(people get ticked off by TW slash? Seriously? if they're anti-slash why do they watch the show??)

I have to admit, my little OTP heart sorta squishes at the thought of Rodney doing it all for Sheppard. What baffles me about the reactions is that - my OTP heart was satisfied! It's not very difficult to interpret the ep as being all about saving Sheppard, with everyone else as the afterthought; he just didn't get the inspiration until after Keller died. It's easier to see it that way than to see it being about saving Keller (if Keller were so important to him, why wasn't he looking for another way to save her when she was still alive? Talking to doctors, researching online...instead he's just standing in the corridor, breaking and helpless...)

But, yes, I love that it's both personal and epic simultaneously, that Rodney is saving Sheppard and saving the galaxy...you know they're heroes when to do both is one and the same!
Edited Date: 2008-03-11 05:49 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-03-11 02:07 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga rodney the things i have done)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
I've always thought "living for someone" is one of the most romantic and ultimate sacrifices - which is what Rodney was doing anyway, trying to make a life for himself with Jennifer, trying to have some happiness because that's what his teammates would have wanted for him. Instead he sacrifices that for them, and oh, Rodney!

(and hee, glad you like the icon - every time I listen to Beethoven's Last Night I hear Rodney Rodney Rodney!)

Date: 2008-03-11 02:46 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga rodney the things i have done)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Yeah, the problem with watching a scifi show is that no plan sounds insane, because anything is possible in SF! But the chars don't realize they're in such a show, and believe there are limits (well, except for Sheppard, who totally knows. But he wasn't there to push Rodney past rationality...)

Glad you enjoyed my raving!

Date: 2008-03-11 02:55 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga mcshep)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Aww, I'm glad I might help change your mind - I tend to go for the most squeeful interpretation of eps, but I lucked out in this one because this is the way I saw it from the start. Hope I've helped spread the squee a little!

John really is in love. Not that Rodney doesn't love John, but John's love is almost scary...

Date: 2008-03-11 02:58 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga rodney the things i have done)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
I loved this ep, and yeah, Rodney broke my heart (in the best of ways!)
And glad you like the icon! (every time I hear that song it makes me think of Rodney...)

Date: 2008-03-11 03:00 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga mcshep)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
If Jennifer had lived, I think she would've still wound up as nothing more than an interlude with Rodney eventually being driven to correct the timeline and her ultimately turning away from his obsessive self.

Yes, definitely! This is exactly how I saw it (really, I was surprised the first time I saw someone saying otherwise! I was so relieved, watching the ep, that the Keller thing was such a footnote in Rodney's life, that it confused me how folks could take it as a main event...)

Date: 2008-03-11 03:00 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga rodney the things i have done)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
All I can say to this is <3 Oh, Rodney!

Date: 2008-03-11 03:03 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga rodney the things i have done)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
That's a great point, about Rodney seeming apologetic about him & Jennifer...he seems reluctant to make any kind of deal about it at all, even though Sheppard tries to. I'm tempted to see Rodney as feeling guilty about Keller, because in the end he didn't care about her enough to listen to her deathbed wishes - he's so very willing to leave that relationship behind, might've even be happier forgetting it, because in the end all it was was another reminder of everything he left behind in Pegasus...

Date: 2008-03-11 03:10 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga rodney the things i have done)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Rodney's incredible sacrifice, not just for John but for everyone, for his friends and family and city and home

That's kind of what it comes down to for me - my OTP side can't help but like the 'doing it all for John' idea, but my Rodney-fan side just loves that he can be this epic a hero, that he sacrificed so much for the sake of everything. (and especially, team! <3)

...it also makes some of the Sheppard-fens' takes a bit disturbing, to me. I've seen a few people upset by the fact that if Rodney hadn't done it, John would've died far in the future, alone. Well, yes, that would've been sad...but he would be just one more person dying tragically in that timeline, and to make his death that much more significant than Teyla's or Ronon's or Sam's is rather devaluing their relationship with Rodney...

Date: 2008-03-11 03:13 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga mcshep)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
*laughs* You're welcome - it seems like a lot of us somehow tuned into a different ep! (parallel universe? We seem to have gotten the better reality! ^^)
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