SPN mini-commentary

[xparrot]

Regarding SPN 5x12 and 5x13:

5x12: a criminal waste of a good body swap. Phooey.

5x13: DANGIT SHOW, why'd you have to go and do that? I liked Anna, quite a lot - rebellious angels of all stripes are a major draw for me. Having her go evil (and stupidly evil no less - she actually achieved her objective, she killed Sam, and then rather than go and immediately scatter his atoms across the cosmos - back in time, no less, it probably would've taken some effort to straighten that out - she continued to go for the brutal murder. ARGH.) and then get killed is just annoying.

I also believe this means that every single female character who appeared in more than two episodes is now dead. Seriously, show, the hell? Even Castiel h/c can't make up for that.

(not to say that I didn't enjoy those bits. But I would've enjoyed them a lot more in a different context.)



Also finished s4 Buffy/s1 Angel. Yay friendship! Yay h/c! Yay Spike in tweed on a swingset! (Joss Whedon is a Twin Peaks/David Lynch fan, y/y?)

Comments

[trystings.livejournal.com]

I'm commenting with my eyes closed - I haven't watched SPN season 5 yet. We've just started on season 3 in NL (promoted as ALL NEW! :P).

And what is it that I hear? Is there trouble brewing on the set of NCIS? I thought Mark Harmon partially took over as producer after Bellisario left? :(

[immicolia.livejournal.com]

*thinks* I don't know. Aren't Jo and Ellen still alive?... then again, I still have season 4 that I got on DVD for Christmas to get around to watching, let alone season 5. So I have honestly no clue. But I think they're still alive...... by virtue of not being in any more episodes. Which.... okay, isn't any better. :\

(truthfully, SPN kinda died for me at the end of season 2 when they torched the Roadhouse and Ash apparently died in a fire. I still watch it on DVD but my interest is very mild)

[naye]

I am SO GLAD I stopped watching Supernatural. Just. orz

And - oooh, end of S4 is the awesome dream sequence? I did love that ep...!

[lavvyan.livejournal.com]

SPN's treatment of its female characters makes just about everyone who's still watching regularly twitch in annoyance, I think. But yes, this one was particularly pointless.

But you know, what's really annyoing me this season? All the baffling storytelling choices. It's the Apocalypse, dammit, and still we get one filler episode after another, each with maybe one plot-relevant line. If the production team aren't giving a shit, why should I?

[nenya85.livejournal.com]

Your comments are so interesting they always make me wish I could get into SPN ^___^

[ladydreamer.livejournal.com]

I feel you. I wish they'd just introduced a random oneshot character for Michael to incinerate, who found them through the same magical plot device that Anna used to escape from prison. Sigh. I'll admit that I didn't like Anna at first when she was human. After she became an angel, I liked her a lot. She had an interesting arc.

I really love SPN but I don't know why they refuse to get with it on this particular issue.

[bluepard.livejournal.com]

As soon as Anna showed up, I knew it was going to go badly. I liked her too, which means it's best for her if she stays off the show!

(Also, I wonder how much more incest is being written thanks to this episode.)

[kristen999.livejournal.com]

It is annoying that they do kill all the interesting side characters, then again they kill everyone off. I don't keep up with the meta of the show, but is it 'picking on female character or characters of race' when in fact they do kill everyone?

I know I'll get hammered for saying this, but there are only two characters the show cares about and that are Sam and Dean. The end. If all the side characters were white men, then the show would get hassled for not having diversity...when they do cast characters other than white men, they get hassled for killing them.

I guess the main problem is that everyone on she show ends up dead or evil, which they are consistent in doing. Lol I do think they could keep a side cast without bumping them off at every turn though, you’ll hear an amen on that :D

As far as filler eppys vs. myth arc, no one seems to be happy.

It seems half my f-list is sick and tired of the apocalypse and wants more 'monster of the week' eppys, while they other half wants more myth arc eppys vs. filler ones. And that's a problem the show has had since they made a major turn at the end of season.

But to be honest I only watch the NCIS(s) and SPN, so I do watch for entrainment purposes only and I still enjoy watching the heck out of all of them.

[sholio]

Oh, SPN. XD I've pretty much disengaged emotionally with the show; I'm just not surprised at any stupid thing it does anymore. I did roll my eyes so hard they almost fell out of my head at Anna being all horror-movie-monster with John and Mary in the mechanic garage (i.e. standing there and glaring ominously rather than just wiping them out, when she's supposed to be all super-badass -- she came back 30 years and can't just pick up a tire iron?), but I've decided that getting emotionally invested in supporting characters isn't really worth it for this show.

One thing I was saying at someone else's LJ ... well, I'll just paste my comment rather than trying to paraphrase:

I think it's becoming more and more obvious that what they should have done to make [the mytharc] work -- what they started to do back in season two and then pulled away from for some reason -- is to world-build like crazy, because what they need at this point, I think, is a large cast of supporting players and world-building concepts to draw upon. Instead, they've been introducing supporting characters and artifacts Maguffin-style and then getting rid of them, which doesn't really leave them much to play with. At this point they're pretty much just reduced to going in circles with both the plot and Sam & Dean's interactions with each other.

... which is really where I'm at with the series: it feels like they've been retreading the same territory with Sam and Dean for two seasons now (if not longer), and they just don't have the universe to support the long-arc plot that they're trying to do. They've already plumbed the depths of their main characters' relationship to each other ad infinitum, and their relationship with their parents, and now they're left with the claustrophobic results of having systematically killed off everyone else who's important to them (except for Bobby, but that's another relationship that's pretty much been plumbed to its depths) and having nowhere left to go emotionally.

I did, somewhat against my will *g*, really enjoy the Castiel h/c and his loyalty to Sam (though, I really didn't feel like the show had adequately set up for it -- "Sam is my friend" since when?).