tankoubon oddness

[xparrot]

Looking over Gintama manga, scanlations and original raws, I noticed something odd. The scanlations I have are from the SJ chapters, while the raws are scans of the tankoubon - and they're different. The tankoubon raws have some extra pages - so far I've noticed 4 extra pages at the end of the Tama Virus arc, and one at the Character Poll arc. New art, new dialogue - did Sorachi expand them a bit for the tankoubon, or what? Also of interest, at least in the Virus arc, the added pages match the anime's end - the tag with the Leukocyte King fighting is in the tank. but not the scanlation. And the final lines before that are different as well (specifically the scanlation is missing the Leukocyte King's line about being a copy of a troublesome man who can't even say thank you or cry, and what would Gintoki do in this situation? And Gintoki's "Smile." (which exchange I <3, a lot.)) This doesn't seem to be a translation error, since the page layouts are different... (The line they have instead is also cute but rather different; wonder what the original Japanese was...?)

Or is this a common thing with manga and I've just never noticed it before? I know that Saiyuki's chapters were sometimes published with incomplete art and completed in the tankoubon, but that was a different situation, so...? OTOH, given the extreme deadlines weekly shounen mangaka operate under, it wouldn't surprise me...

(This is also making me curious - when looking at some of the later scanlations I've noticed translations that are completely different from what was said in the corresponding scene in the anime - and when I've looked at the raws, the anime lines seem to be what was in the original manga; I was thinking the translation was either really bad or was possibly being done from another source (like the Chinese version), but now I'm wondering if Sorachi actually adjusts the manga scripts when they get collected in the tankoubons, and the anime is done off the new scripts?)

Comments

[shayera.livejournal.com]

I have noticed this in Gintama as well - I get raws of the recent Jump chapters, but I also get the tankoubons, and the first scans I have overlap with the latest tankoubon I have, and there are differences. I haven't actually studied it, so I don't know how much of the wording has been changed, but for example, at the end of the Kabukichou arc (which hasn't been animated), the tankoubon changes the last page of the final chapter into two pages - the contents are the same, but it increases the impact.

[xparrot.livejournal.com]

Yes, those are the only definite differences I've noticed, that the ends of arcs are expanded - as you say, for greater impact. The end of the Virus arc looks like the lines might be changed (though I can't say for sure, not having the originals of the SJ chapters); the end of the Char Poll arc just adds dialogue but doesn't alter anything, that I could tell.

I wonder if this is fairly common and I've just never compared them to notice, or if this is special to Gintama? Since Sorachi-sensei is...shall we say...special!

[shayera.livejournal.com]

I've assumed it's special to Gintama, but I can't be sure that other mangaka doesn't do it... All I can say is that I've never seen anything like that in One Piece, but that's the only case where I have enough material to be sure!

[nikojen.livejournal.com]

I've never followed up to do an in-depth comparison, but I'm fairly sure there were additions or tweaks in the Weiss Side B tankoubons. That particular title had a fairly erratic schedule, so I've always assumed the manga-ka was having to scramble to get something out and cleaned it up afterward.

[xparrot.livejournal.com]

Hmm, Weiss Side B was published in Zero Sum along with Saiyuki, which also cleaned up things for the tankoubon...a trait of that publisher, perhaps? Shoujo/jousei titles in general tend to be looser, at least that's the way they appear to me, what with CLAMP's flakey schedules and such...but maybe things like this happen in shounen, too, and I've just never noticed. Hmmm!