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EEEEEK - I just downloaded an ep of YGO. A dubbed ep. BWAAHAHAHA now I am going to go stab out my ears.

Why do they change the soundtracks in dubs? WHY? YGO has good BGM (pretty standard videogame-esque, but there's several overblown orchestral tracks, I am so very weak to those.) No god card theme? Tragic! Then they rewrite the script, which is already pretty talky, to narrate every single bloody event on the screen. Because American children are too stupid to interpret moving pictures, apparently.

And then there's the voices. Will not even mention Kaiba. Will not will not will not... okay, so Tsuda Kenjirou is a new favorite seiyuu (thanks to his almost-not-quite crying in episode 116. And his mad laugh. And every single Blue Eyes attack. --Speaking of which, what the hell is this "White Lightning" shit? "HOROBI NO BAASUTO SUTORIIMU!!!") This guy? Not so much. And "virus" is such a cooler word when contorted into Japanese pronunciation.

I'd been warned about Jounouchi's Brooklyn accent before, but still, yeah, that's pretty bad. Wait, who's talking now?

OMGGGGGGGGG THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CALLING YAMI'S VOICE??? THAT DEMENTED SQUEAKY--

...

Never mind, Malik just spoke. Baby, what have they done to you?

Mokuba gets off easy, considering. Annoying instead of adorable but what can you do? *cringe* But, "Seto"? Aw, man. I know, I know, "big brother" sounds dumb in English, and "sir elder brother" moreso. But still - "Nii-sama!"

Wait, now I'm confused. Yami talks in a different voice in his head? Is that Yugi's voice? Yami's talking aloud now in a deep narrator's voice. A really irritating narrator's voice.

--oh good grief, I want to punch out Jounouchi Joey. Just to shut him up. That's wrong. I like Jounouchi.

I shouldn't have picked an ep with so much dialogue from Kaiba *wince* His mad laugh doesn't hold a candle to Tsuda's lunacy. And he doesn't have his special gentle Mokuba-only voice, either. And what the hell, where's his great "Ore no pride, ore no tamashii" Blue Eyes summoning speech?? That was such a great bit! (I'm watching ep 94, 2nd part of Isis vs Kaiba. Or Ishizu? Thought it was supposed to be Isis?)

Mokuba: "Oh no!"
Yami: "Oh yes!"
X-parrot: "Oh god!" *gets fork for ears*

Date: 2005-07-20 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immicolia.livejournal.com
Heh. Maybe I should consider myself lucky that I never saw any of the Battle City eps of the dub and therefore didn't have to hear dub!Malik. But I have seen some of season 4. And in there you got Bad Australian Accent Guy (I can never remember his name... Valon I think? The one who ends up fighting with Jounouchi over Mai) And... Yea. There was an at least four episode long duel between those two which I ended up calling "Battle of the Bad Accents" I was seriously wanting to start pealing strips of my own skin off in an attempt to distract myself. Which is why I was glad when Joey lost his soul and went comatose. That means he's not talking.

Yami's dub voice still mostly makes me want to laugh my ass off every time I hear it. Kaiba's I could actually put up with (although I still laughed at it a lot) although now that I've heard the original, I'll probably be even more intolerant.

(as a sidebar since you did vaguely bring up the virus thing. I need to get off my chest the fact that while I was watching those eps I laughed every time everyone was all shocked that whoever Kaiba was dueling got around his "virus chain" To which I say: of course they did! He only attempts it every fucking time! And when has it ever really worked? Therefore I laugh.)

Date: 2005-07-20 03:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
But that's so wrong! I like Jounouchi! He's probably my third favorite character (umm. if you count the Kaiba bros as number 1, and both Yugis as number 2...) But yes, even just the little bit I saw of him in that eppy...it wasn't just the accent, it was the script, too. Jou's supposed to be funny and sweet and not quite as stupid as he can seem (he's impulsive and a gambler, but he's not actually dumb)! not...that...voice, if you can go as far as to call it that...

Yami's voice is just a really, really bad narrator's diction. Which makes sense considering they seem to need to narrate every single freaking event in the duels and elsewhere. I thought the duels were over-explained already but this is ridiculous...and Kaiba, yeah, his voice wasn't as painful as the others, but it has so much less emotional range - at least the ep I saw, but Kaiba goes through a lot of emotion in that ep, so...yes, 'pissed', 'angry', and 'gloating' are all important Kaiba expressions, but he also needs 'shocked' and 'caring' and 'thoughtful' and a lot of others...he's the definition of a complex character, and his voice should reflect that. Also his voice should be hot. But American VA casting rarely considers that quality...

Ahahah I'll see you the virus chain and raise you a FUCKING MAGIC SILK HATS. If Yami uses that ploy one more time I'm gonna scream. The duels would be less annoying if for like half of them they're so bloody obvious that I'm watching thinking oh for pity's sake just gimme the damn deck and I'll beat him. And I don't even play these games. This is more true in the beginning, the later matches have had some pretty clever stuff. ...and then I realize I'm fanning on card games and consider killing myself to end my shame. Though in Kaiba's defense, a couple of the times he uses the virus chain was in the filler, in which they all play worse and tend to repeat past moves a lot. It actually did work against Yugi at Duelist Kingdom, and against Isis (though she let him do it as part of her trap).

...And now I must go commit ritual suicide for actually knowing the mechanics of those duels.

Date: 2005-07-20 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-karasu.livejournal.com
*laughs* And suddenly, I feel bereft for having never seen the original... perhaps I'll just weasel some episodes off of Stacy, come Otakon- since she's our resident fan. ^_~ (I do feel your pain, however- for the first time in ages I caught the dub-that-will-remain-nameless *cough*onepiece*cough* last weekend and am still pining over poor Smoker-- er... captain chaser, I mean. o_O;;)

Date: 2005-07-20 03:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
CAPTAIN CHASER?!!!?!?! WT HOLY F?!?

...I don't have cable, I haven't seen any of the OP dub because no one's been ripping it, that I've found. I'm happier this way, I know, and yet I can't help but be curious, all the same...what did they do to my beloved marines???

and if you like YGO the slightest bit, do try to catch the sub. I don't think it's *quite* as great a defilement as OP (the difference mainly being that OP is a hell of a fantastic show to begin with, while as YGO is, er, not) but it's still worlds different. Such as you can actually *like* the chars...

Date: 2005-07-20 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-karasu.livejournal.com
Ya, I hadn't bothered with it since about the 7th episode, and after that only to see what horror befell Sanji's voice- but Oh man, it was something special- not only did they demote him and change his name, but I SWEAR I was only kidding when I wrote the dub-changes thing, but they really did just edit out the cigars and leave the smoke billowing out of his open mouth. o_O Its just so... it defies words- you'd have to see it.

As for much more pleasant things- I think I will catch up with the sub, then- for all that I've seen dubbed in english, I really want to like Kaiba- I imagine it could only be confirmed if I see the original. ^_^

Date: 2005-07-20 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lebateleur.livejournal.com
Heh heh. I get so natsukashii for YGO. It was one of the first anime I ever watched in Japan, back to back as it was with Hamutaro, so there was one I could do with the host sister and one with the host brother. And I actually kinda dug YGO, to the point that I'd rave about it to friends back home.

Who'd always politely change the subject after a significant silence. Little did I know why, until I returned home to find that they'd already watched an ep in the dub. And man, was I then embarrassed...

Date: 2005-07-20 03:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
I'm having to defend myself against my brother, who thinks I have lost all remnants of good taste for falling for the damn series (a difficult argument to make, as I sort of agree with him. But shounen will forever be my weakness, as long as they keep spicing up cliche plots and endless fights with unexpectedly fascinatingly complex characters...)

I don't understand how people can watch the dub. Much less start fanning on it. I know, I'm a terrible snob, but still. Ouch.

Date: 2006-11-21 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ekisa-himani.livejournal.com
Hi, I think I reviewed some of your fics on ff.net a while ago and I decided to have a mooch around your LJ.

Just in case you're wondering who the nosy girl is ^^

And he doesn't have his special gentle Mokuba-only voice, either.

Actually, he does, but it doesn't come out to play very often, it seems. In fact, if I remember rightly (I haven't seen the epi in ages), it's only at the end of DK. So that makes a grand total of, uh, once that I've seen.

I have to agree, though, the dub is nasty. When I first got into YGO, I had to watch the dub and I remember that I really did not like Kaiba - or Jounouchi. Jounouchi's dub voice got to me and Kaiba was just... urgh. I kept wondering why he was so damn popular.

Then the translated manga came out and enlightened me ;)

Date: 2006-11-24 05:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Welcome to the lj! hope you enjoy the mooching ^^

Yeah, I read the manga first, before seeing any version of the anime, and I still find it superior to both sub and dub. Though Tsuda Kenjirou's voice is absolutely the sex...I loved Kaiba before I ever heard him, though. Which is a little odd, because I didn't care for the char at all at first. Then I started reading DK and he was not quite a villain anymore, and so very sweet with his brother, and, yep, I fell hard! But dub!Kaiba...*brrr*

Date: 2006-11-24 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ekisa-himani.livejournal.com
Knowing how popular he was, I wanted to like Kaiba when I watched the dub - I really did. I'd developed a soft spot for him at the end of DK just watching him with Mokuba . It made me want to hug him.

Then I saw BC, which made me want to scream. Yeah, seriously. He started mellowing out during DK (note: I never saw the RPG arc 'cause the channel I watched YGO on was rather crap about epis, so I don't know how he was in that arc) and then reverted to being unbearable during BC. The sheer inconsistency of his character, coupled with his actual characterisation made me take a very strong dislike to him.

So yeah, to summarise, dub!Kaiba's a git ^^ And also much <3 to Mr Takahashi for making me adore a character I used to hate.

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