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SPN 2x22 - short reaction: O.M.G. I LOVE MY SHOW.
Long reaction:
I REALLY REALLY REALLY LOVE MY SHOW!
In no order, because I am quite sick and feverish and not in any condition to be coherent:
Tears! Oh, Dean!
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUG!!! BOTH OF THEM ALIVE HUG!!!!
Fan. Fucking. Fic. How can Eric Kripke be male? Seriously, now!
I love Bobby! I love Bobby so very very much and am so glad he survived and so worried he won't make it through next season. I love how much he loves our boys, I love that he's so much a better father to them than John ever was (sorry, John, you know I love you but you aren't gonna win any parent of the year award).
gnine was wondering if one of the things Bobby conflicted with John over was about raising the boys? Would not be surprised. I also love Bobby's expression when Sam & Dean turn up both alive on his doorstep, so very 'Oh you did NOT just do that,' to Dean.
Ellen lives! <3333 I love Ellen so very much too! The boys have a Daddy and a Mommy again, after all this time, and they both kick ass!
I totally adored the giant RR devil's trap, I mean that's just so awesome. Goofy maybe but awesome.
John climbs out of hell! John might have been fighting demons in hell! A hunter in hell! And is he gone to heaven (or wherever good little hunters go, methinks Dean would prefer Valhalla) or elsewhere?
Ol' Yellow Eyes is gone! And Dean got to call him a son of a bitch before he went!
Sam is...let's worry about Sam later. (Ol' Yellow Eyes pointing that out to Dean, in Kripke's oh-so-adorably clunky dialogue, heee)
The final conversation, oh the final conversation, and Sam just asking "how long" and "you're my big brother" and oh oh ohhhhhhh....
I hope that all next season isn't demon hunting, this show wouldn't be served by going arc...maybe 50/50 demons and urban legends, would work for me? But whatever. I have faith!
So very much faith.
Oh, Dean. Oh, Sam. Oh, Kripke. Oh, Show! <3
It's good I have SPN. It washes out the taste of SV.
Okay, it's decided, I hate this show. SV has made me hate Lionel. Lionel! The once Magnificent Bastard himself! Now he's just...I don't know. Using people and not telling them and this is a good thing? How is manipulating Lana into doing his dangerous dirty work that much better than mind control?
I guess it makes somewhat sense, though. Jor-El seems pretty much an asshole; if Martian Manhunter was in his employ, reasonable that he wouldn't really care about Lionel's methods. Though then why Lex's methods are such a big deal - because his goal is the same as theirs, saving the damn planet. Why is Lionel's way so much more honorable? ...Dammit. They're making me hate the Martian Manhunter, even! Nooooo!
Someone else pointed this out - now Martha Kent has gained two elected positions while not actually being elected for either of them. Uh, power to the people?
Chloe warns Lois off going up against Lex, because you never win. Except, umm, when have Chloe & Clark lost? They've always achieved their objectives against Lex, with the exception of Chloe's one 'crimes against humanity' article that she couldn't have published anyway because she hadn't done the necessary fact-finding. They got Flash out, they got Tobias away safely, they got Moira out. They've never tried to get anyone else out. And if Chloe mentions "what he did to my mother" one more time I am gonna smack her one (hey, actions speak louder than words, and since I'm a chick it's not thuggish when I do it) - just what did Lex do to your mother? She'd be in a coma either way. Face it, guys, you want Lex to be this awesomely scary supervillain so you can be the superheroes who bring him down, but right now he's just a loser who can't even get away with a murder he didn't even do. (More's the pity.)
At least Lois is trying. Harder than Chloe has in a while, since Chloe now is content to sit back and let Clark save the world, and Clark is only interested in saving Lana. Finding out Clark's secret makes you a useless loser; maybe it's best Lex was never allowed into the cabal. As the only two outsiders left, Lois and Lex totally need to get together and really save the world. Except I think Lois's morals aren't as compromisable as every other char's (dammit, I still like Lois), so she'll never go for it now. If only she'd teamed up with Lex a couple seasons ago, she could've beaten the evol out of him before it got this bad.
Absolutely the saddest part of the ep: Lex's main-man minion died! Like that! Dead! *sob* Unnamed minion, you will be missed! I swear, that's the thing that hurt me worst. I was fic'ing him in my head. I might still fic him but now it will be tragic! *sobs again*
Lex running like that felt out of char, see "Fallout" when he steps in the path of danger...
gnine argues that it was just common sense, especially since he might've been trying to draw the thing's attention away from the lab and the super soldiers...would explain why his containment methods were so very sub-par; he didn't really want it trapped there with his project. But the scene was totally filmed to show how much a coward Lex was, giving up the doctor instead of risking his own miserable hide, or am I just sensitive?
Lana is just. Okay. Here's the thing. Lana is a meteor freak. I will not see it otherwise. It's her terrible powers that turn Lex into such a desperately stupid, blind, thuggish asshole. (At least his office camera caught her opening the briefcase! Thank everything that was mentioned!) "Lana loves me" - ummm, dude. You had to fake a pregnancy to get her to tie the knot. Not love so much there. (The fake pregnancy is just such totally incomprehensible nonsense it deserves a rant of its own. I can't make sense of it.) Other than meteor powers I cannot see how she could have him wrapped around her little finger, and so easily frame him for murder, and argh argh ARRRRGH. I couldn't even enjoy the much-anticipated slap because it was thuggish and out of line and pathetic. When you gotta smack the bitch because you can't get her back with a few choice words (such as, "Yeah, love, who was going to leave who at the altar, hamster-face?") , that's just sad.
Still, gotta love Lana's "He hit me!" to Lionel and Lionel being all "OH MY GAWD HOW AWFUL! My son who I have been backhanding since he was knee-high to a shoot of corn HIT you? That monster!"
If Lex is going to be the villain, then let him be A COMPETENT VILLAIN. Not this stupid evol loser.
This stupid evol loser who saved a couple peoples' lives in the opening scene. Yeah, show. I didn't forget. Unless Lex went and had his private SWAT team shoot the girl and priest just to prove how EVOL he is, which I wouldn't put past him.
...So very much hate.
There's gotta be something good - oh. Yes. Bizarro Clark is pretty. Just hope that face-fracturing is a temporary effect. And the fight was cool. Please let him survive and please let him ally with Lex and plot ways to take Clark prisoner and have their wicked way with him. Mass orgies with the silver-short gang!
Please? I don't know how I can bear to tune in otherwise...
Long reaction:
I REALLY REALLY REALLY LOVE MY SHOW!
In no order, because I am quite sick and feverish and not in any condition to be coherent:
Tears! Oh, Dean!
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUG!!! BOTH OF THEM ALIVE HUG!!!!
Fan. Fucking. Fic. How can Eric Kripke be male? Seriously, now!
I love Bobby! I love Bobby so very very much and am so glad he survived and so worried he won't make it through next season. I love how much he loves our boys, I love that he's so much a better father to them than John ever was (sorry, John, you know I love you but you aren't gonna win any parent of the year award).
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Ellen lives! <3333 I love Ellen so very much too! The boys have a Daddy and a Mommy again, after all this time, and they both kick ass!
I totally adored the giant RR devil's trap, I mean that's just so awesome. Goofy maybe but awesome.
John climbs out of hell! John might have been fighting demons in hell! A hunter in hell! And is he gone to heaven (or wherever good little hunters go, methinks Dean would prefer Valhalla) or elsewhere?
Ol' Yellow Eyes is gone! And Dean got to call him a son of a bitch before he went!
Sam is...let's worry about Sam later. (Ol' Yellow Eyes pointing that out to Dean, in Kripke's oh-so-adorably clunky dialogue, heee)
The final conversation, oh the final conversation, and Sam just asking "how long" and "you're my big brother" and oh oh ohhhhhhh....
I hope that all next season isn't demon hunting, this show wouldn't be served by going arc...maybe 50/50 demons and urban legends, would work for me? But whatever. I have faith!
So very much faith.
Oh, Dean. Oh, Sam. Oh, Kripke. Oh, Show! <3
It's good I have SPN. It washes out the taste of SV.
Okay, it's decided, I hate this show. SV has made me hate Lionel. Lionel! The once Magnificent Bastard himself! Now he's just...I don't know. Using people and not telling them and this is a good thing? How is manipulating Lana into doing his dangerous dirty work that much better than mind control?
I guess it makes somewhat sense, though. Jor-El seems pretty much an asshole; if Martian Manhunter was in his employ, reasonable that he wouldn't really care about Lionel's methods. Though then why Lex's methods are such a big deal - because his goal is the same as theirs, saving the damn planet. Why is Lionel's way so much more honorable? ...Dammit. They're making me hate the Martian Manhunter, even! Nooooo!
Someone else pointed this out - now Martha Kent has gained two elected positions while not actually being elected for either of them. Uh, power to the people?
Chloe warns Lois off going up against Lex, because you never win. Except, umm, when have Chloe & Clark lost? They've always achieved their objectives against Lex, with the exception of Chloe's one 'crimes against humanity' article that she couldn't have published anyway because she hadn't done the necessary fact-finding. They got Flash out, they got Tobias away safely, they got Moira out. They've never tried to get anyone else out. And if Chloe mentions "what he did to my mother" one more time I am gonna smack her one (hey, actions speak louder than words, and since I'm a chick it's not thuggish when I do it) - just what did Lex do to your mother? She'd be in a coma either way. Face it, guys, you want Lex to be this awesomely scary supervillain so you can be the superheroes who bring him down, but right now he's just a loser who can't even get away with a murder he didn't even do. (More's the pity.)
At least Lois is trying. Harder than Chloe has in a while, since Chloe now is content to sit back and let Clark save the world, and Clark is only interested in saving Lana. Finding out Clark's secret makes you a useless loser; maybe it's best Lex was never allowed into the cabal. As the only two outsiders left, Lois and Lex totally need to get together and really save the world. Except I think Lois's morals aren't as compromisable as every other char's (dammit, I still like Lois), so she'll never go for it now. If only she'd teamed up with Lex a couple seasons ago, she could've beaten the evol out of him before it got this bad.
Absolutely the saddest part of the ep: Lex's main-man minion died! Like that! Dead! *sob* Unnamed minion, you will be missed! I swear, that's the thing that hurt me worst. I was fic'ing him in my head. I might still fic him but now it will be tragic! *sobs again*
Lex running like that felt out of char, see "Fallout" when he steps in the path of danger...
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Lana is just. Okay. Here's the thing. Lana is a meteor freak. I will not see it otherwise. It's her terrible powers that turn Lex into such a desperately stupid, blind, thuggish asshole. (At least his office camera caught her opening the briefcase! Thank everything that was mentioned!) "Lana loves me" - ummm, dude. You had to fake a pregnancy to get her to tie the knot. Not love so much there. (The fake pregnancy is just such totally incomprehensible nonsense it deserves a rant of its own. I can't make sense of it.) Other than meteor powers I cannot see how she could have him wrapped around her little finger, and so easily frame him for murder, and argh argh ARRRRGH. I couldn't even enjoy the much-anticipated slap because it was thuggish and out of line and pathetic. When you gotta smack the bitch because you can't get her back with a few choice words (such as, "Yeah, love, who was going to leave who at the altar, hamster-face?") , that's just sad.
Still, gotta love Lana's "He hit me!" to Lionel and Lionel being all "OH MY GAWD HOW AWFUL! My son who I have been backhanding since he was knee-high to a shoot of corn HIT you? That monster!"
If Lex is going to be the villain, then let him be A COMPETENT VILLAIN. Not this stupid evol loser.
This stupid evol loser who saved a couple peoples' lives in the opening scene. Yeah, show. I didn't forget. Unless Lex went and had his private SWAT team shoot the girl and priest just to prove how EVOL he is, which I wouldn't put past him.
...So very much hate.
There's gotta be something good - oh. Yes. Bizarro Clark is pretty. Just hope that face-fracturing is a temporary effect. And the fight was cool. Please let him survive and please let him ally with Lex and plot ways to take Clark prisoner and have their wicked way with him. Mass orgies with the silver-short gang!
Please? I don't know how I can bear to tune in otherwise...
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Date: 2007-05-18 05:46 pm (UTC)Lois and Lex together would have been fun, they could snark each other to death and have mind blowing sex afterwards. Clark can watch. =) Somehow, I think Lois would agree with Lex about saving the world but she'll be the first one to beat him up if he does something stupid.
Oh gods, there are so many holes in having Lana's SUV blows up with her in it. People couldn't get away with it ten years ago, what makes Lana thinks she can get away with it now? Unless there's a clone of her inside when it blew... Urg! Maybe we can get a SV version of that stupid movie about the wife killing the husband thing and they can't charge her twice or something for it.
Hamster-face. I like that.
Damnit SV, stop breaking Lex. Bizarro Clark and Lex should totally team up.
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Date: 2007-05-19 07:02 am (UTC)I have this idea for a rewrite of 5th season in which Lois saw the spaceship and starts meeting up with Lex because of it - she'd be really good for him, I maintain.
Not thinking about Lana. I'm not gonna think about Lana the whole summer, that's my resolution!
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Date: 2007-05-19 09:38 am (UTC)Dood Lois would probably drive Lex up the walls and he would also win the election thing, maybe.
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Date: 2007-05-19 07:09 am (UTC)Didn't you love the part that they're closing the doors to hell, and then Sam realizes Dean's in trouble and just leaves Ellen & Bobby to run to his brother? Oh, boys! Your priorities...I love your priorities ^___^
("teleplay" means who wrote the screenplay; the "story by" credit came after that and was Kripke and Michael T. Moore. So, two men. I don't believe it!!)
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Date: 2007-05-19 01:04 am (UTC)I loved the bit with Lex and Clark in the tunnel, with Clark jumping to the usual conclusion ("Whenever something bad happens, Lex must have done it!") and Lex looking honestly shocked at being told of Lana's death. And then the Zoner appeared, and Lex actually told Clark to run. *squees madly* He didn't say, "Get me out of here!" He told Clark to get out of there because the Zoner would kill them both. And, yes, okay, when Clark shoved him toward the exit, Lex ran, but clearly he knew that, if Clark was determined to fight, he'd have a better chance of beating the Zoner alone than with Lex there to worry about, and Lex has priorities and responsibilities of his own.
As for the part where the Zoner first woke up and killed the minion, and Lex shoved the scientist at it and ran for the door...that could be interpreted as cowardice on Lex's part, if one did not know Lex -- but we all know how many times Lex has shown courage and self-sacrifice. I think this was, again, a question of priorities. No single human life is as important as the safety of the entire human race, and Lex is trying to ensure just that: the safety of the entire human race. His project to protect humanity from insane mutants and alien invasion is what matters most, and he has to keep that in mind. If the scientist dies, Lex gets a new scientist, and the project keeps going. If Lex dies, the project dies with him, because the scientist can't keep it going on his own; he doesn't have the money or the influence or the sheer obsessive determination, and I don't see any other billionaires stepping up to defend the Earth from evil aliens. *glares at Oliver Queen* So Lex wasn't being a coward; he was being practical. Right now, it's more important that he stay alive to keep the project on track than that one of his interchangeable scientists stays alive. It's a question of human survival.
Don't know what the Bizarro Clark is up to, but I keep imagining Lex and both Clarks winding up in bed together....
On the downside, clearly Lana's death was faked, and we will have to endure yet more CLana in the future. *shudders* But did she do it of her own volition, to escape from Lex and Lionel? Did she have help (perhaps Oliver Queen)? Or was she kidnapped by someone who wanted her officially dead? Whoever was behind it seems to have deliberately framed Lex for the 'murder.' And if Lana stays gone long enough for Lex to actually go to prison over this, I can only hope he'll track down and annihilate whoever was responsible once he gets out. *pets Lex and polishes his knives*
As for SPN, I can only squee like a mad thing. *squees*
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Date: 2007-05-19 07:21 am (UTC)Lex and the doctor...I agree on the priorities. It just seemed OOC to me, from Lex, who only a few eps before was putting his life on the line for the project with Keenan's wife, and still tried to save her anyway...he really should be more careful with his own life (I interpret the end of "Lexmas" like that - Lex is so furious with his father because he can still do his work as a cripple, but he can't do it dead, so Lionel choosing the riskier option was utterly the wrong choice.) In "Phantom" the terrified way he shoved the scientist into the thing's path was filmed like Lex was a hapless, hopeless coward...which we know he's not, but the show would like us to forget he has any good qualities.
...argh! so bitter! :P Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but...
You figure Lana had to have help from someone - I'm curious who. How the hell does she manage to arrange something like that without Lex or Lionel having a clue? Unlike Chloe's vast list of contacts, we've never seen Lana communicating with anyone. Except the guy in the Planet who got killed.
I can only hope he'll track down and annihilate whoever was responsible once he gets out.
That, or hire them. I love a villain who can swallow his pride and say 'damn, good show - how'd you like to make some real money?'
SPN - squeeeeee! ^___^
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Date: 2007-05-19 01:47 am (UTC)I find the idea of Lionel Luthor as a loving protector to Clark Kent where he could be a father, of any kind to his own son repellent. Just disgusting retcon of the highest order - saying that Lionel was doing it all for Clark is wrong and a truly evil attempt to make flat out abuse okay, because it was for Clark. And that Clark would think that those methods were ok - especially when they came at the behest of Jor-El who let's be honest has a terrible track record of caring about humanity and has treated Clark so badly. I call shenanigans.
I hate that they have turned Lex into a whiny bitch. The Lex Luthor, a person who shouldn't be arrested for any murder that he doesn't order. And Hell, Lex didn't even know that Lana left really. It's not like when she called Lionel she had suitcases or even looked like she was really walking out. I just can't believe that Lex was punked by another wife. Just so WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: 2007-05-19 07:27 am (UTC)Eee, I cheered out loud at that! And yeah, why wasn't it wired for sound? Lana wasn't playing opera for all of that bit!
More than Lex loving her (because she's a meteor freak!! That is my story and I am totally sticking to it) I'm baffled as to how he can honestly believe she loves him. Unless he was bullshitting Lionel with that. It makes zero sense that he'd be that blind, after having to coerce her into the wedding to begin with...
Total word on Lionel. Lionel as an evil bastard, I greatly enjoy. Lionel as father figure makes me ill, especially when he shows not a shred of remorse about what he did to Lex. Instead he calls Lex evil and doesn't mention, 'oh, and the abuse I subjected him to for years might be a reason for that, sorry for the trouble!' I'm hoping they'll reveal that Lionel has everyone snowed, because if they really are trying to make him a good guy...that's just terrible. --Though it bodes well for Lex; if Lionel can go good then Lex could be redeemed in about half an hour!
If Lex were a competent villain....
Date: 2007-05-19 02:00 am (UTC)Seeing as how 50 or60 people now know about Clark, and he still hasn't been strapped to a lab table and dissected, or whatever it was his parents were afraid of, his reasons for lying to Lex and Lana don't have the resonance they once did.
Well, in the case of Lex, they don't. Lex would have protected Clark with his life. Lana may well have betrayed him.
Re: If Lex were a competent villain....
Date: 2007-05-19 07:30 am (UTC)I absolutely believe this is the reason. But argh. Bad writing! Bad writing! No biscuit!
I wish, just once, Clark actually had gotten strapped to a lab table. It would've made his fears the least bit believable. Hell, I wish there had been an ep that Lex found out Clark's powers and betrayed him. Rather that protecting him with everything he had, even without fully knowing the story. It's hard to fully take Clark's side when all evidence points to Clark being in the wrong about that call...
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Date: 2007-05-20 05:31 am (UTC)Gotta head to work soon so can't respond properly, but just thought I'd pop in to say- I thought Lex looked pretty damn genuine when he told Lana he didn't have any idea about the pregnancy thing, so I'ce decided to take it as read that in an interesting plot twist he never actually did that at all. I'm going with the thought that it was really Lionel as part of his 'Lana must marry Lex' plan. It makes Lionel semi-MB standard again.
Sorry, must dash!
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Date: 2007-05-20 11:44 am (UTC)Absolutely the saddest part of the ep: Lex's main-man minion died! Like that! Dead! *sob* Unnamed minion, you will be missed! I swear, that's the thing that hurt me worst.
*joins you in mourning* I'd love to read your fic about him.
And if the Reeve dam's damages and/or Lex's arrest affect Project Ares, I will get really, really pissed.