[livejournal.com profile] naye is an evil enabler

Nov. 7th, 2008 04:21 am
xparrot: Chopper reading (Default)
[personal profile] xparrot
Last fall [livejournal.com profile] naye mailed us DVDs of a little show you might've heard of, goes by SGA. And we all know how that turned out. Now she's subjecting us to Life (entertaining bit of cop-show surrealism) and NCIS (which is not, I was surprised to learn, a CSI variant. Am rather amused by how often the show itself sees fit to belabor that point...well, it's an easy mistake!) While I'm not likely to completely fan on it (it's not scifi, plus it has the same problem that so many shows that are not SGA suffer from, namely a crippling lack of Rodney McKay), NCIS is an entertaining popcorn show. By which I mean it's pretty much impossible to eat just one ep, not when there's another right there, sitting in the bucket and soaking up delicious faux-butter grease.

I admit to getting a bit twitchy around some of the show's politics, it's slanted more blatantly right than my typical fare, and the pro-military pro-War-on-Terror agenda can get a bit wearing. But mostly it's the usual cop-show shenanigans (the mysteries run the gamut from obvious to clever to extremely WTF did you catch the number of the truck that just drove through that huge gaping plot hole?) and the cast is very likable (if rather blindingly white) - I love all the characters and their interactions. Most especially Abby, I <333 her fiercely and want to go on sleepovers with her and feed her caffeine and play with her adorable hair. I also love love love that she has a friendship with Kate, I've lately been jonesing for girl-girl friendship and while we don't see much of them together, what we do get is SO DANG CUTE, betting against the boys and all. Abbs is also cute as anything with Gibbs, and McGee, and Ducky, and Ducky's silly assistant boy who she just got superglued to in the last ep (Jimmy, is it?)...yays for goth girl geniuses!

Also really love Kate and Tony, because, yes, platonic male-female friendship = LOVE and their sibling dynamic is the best, what with the food fights and going to Ducky for mediation and the occasional moments of worry. Rather do like Tony, even if he can be an ass (and we were driven nuts for the first half a season before we finally IDed him as Logan from Dark Angel. Mmmm, Logan. ...oh shut up, he wore glasses as Logan. I am 100% susceptible to hot glasses.) Tony is also the show's whipping boy, and as a card-carrying (figuratively, though if they had such cards I totally would have to register) h/c fan I can't resist.

And I'm not actually slashing Gibbs/Tony, except around [livejournal.com profile] naye because the way it makes her squirm and wail is so dang funny. Well, and the show encourages it (if worse 1st season) in that innocent Really Really Hetero Guys way, "we are so obviously straight that no one would ever even imagine us otherwise except a million fangirls" so they are free to stand so very close together when they talk and Gibbs touches him a lot and Tony is hopelessly oversexed and Gibbs can't handle relationships with women and Tony knows what Gibbs looks like when he's asleep, and the cute little conservative show has no idea what it's doing (unlike say Merlin, which is nudge-nudge wink-wink-ing the audience in practically every scene.) But I can't seriously see the slash because Gibbs is so very much the father figure to all of them that it would be kind of creepy and wrong. It does crack me up, though.

So, not full-out fanning, but looking forward to seeing more. (Ah, and please don't spoil me for anything in later seasons, I'm mostly ignorant about this show and while I know there are some cast changes, I don't know the details, so don't mention anything specific in the comments, thanks!)



In other news, this still has me high. YES WE CAN!!!

(So who's writing the RPF-ish thing wherein our new President-elect's intelligence briefing includes a summary of the Stargate Program? "We spend how many billions on archaeological research in order to defend the planet from alien spaceships made from giant pyramids? And what was that about intergalactic vampires, again?")

ETA: [livejournal.com profile] ariadne83 informs me that Ladycat777 is writing this!

Date: 2008-11-06 07:30 pm (UTC)
sholio: sun on winter trees (Shrine laugh)
From: [personal profile] sholio
So who's writing the RPF-ish thing wherein our new President-elect's intelligence briefing includes a summary of the Stargate Program?

bwahahaha, that's what I said to my husband in the car this morning when they started talking on NPR about the President-Elect getting his security briefing - "Is this when they tell him about the Stargate?" XD

Date: 2008-11-06 07:42 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga atlantis)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
I read the article and was mentally writing the conversation on my bike ride to work, and then realized I was RPFing - I am fangirling our president-elect! I rather like the feeling, actually...

Date: 2008-11-06 07:56 pm (UTC)
sholio: sun on winter trees (LoM-Sam Gene smile)
From: [personal profile] sholio
Hee! I'm totally fangirling him; it's so sad, and I'm kinda trying to stop, but ... I can't help myself! This thread didn't help at all.

Date: 2008-11-06 08:17 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
OMG HE'S ONE OF US!!

...if that "all your base" thing is true...just, oh man, I don't know what it says about me, that I *want* it to be true. I think it's that he's not just a "regular guy" - though the casual, close affection he shows with his family warms me to him so much - but that he's a regular *smart* guy, that he is something of a nerd and a geek. Which doesn't just make him more approachable, but it also makes him look like someone who can be talked to, who maybe can be reasoned with, who might not just say he understands, but actually understand.

I don't know if Obama actually *will* be able to accomplish anything in the White House. It's not an easy job. And I don't agree with all his policies. But I honestly believe that he *wants* the best for everyone in America, and for the right reasons, and that's more than I can say about most politicians I know of.

...which means I'm fangirling him to an embarrassing extent. I was keeping myself from doing so before, because I feared the crushing disappointment if he lost - now there's nothing stopping me, and I'm looking at pictures and reading interviews and flailing and squeeing. Oh dear.

Date: 2008-11-06 08:36 pm (UTC)
sholio: (Torchwood-Owen)
From: [personal profile] sholio
I know! Obviously he's not perfect; obviously he's not going to be able to deliver everything he promises, and I'm not even sure that I want everything he's promised to deliver. But I like him, and believe in him -- I really think that he is trying to do his best, and he makes me believe in things like patriotism and nation-love that have really never sparked anything in me before. I've never felt this sort of affinity for a politician before, and a lot of it is simply that he seems like a good man who is genuinely invested in doing what's best for the people in his country.

Date: 2008-11-07 04:59 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (dw smiles)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
he makes me believe in things like patriotism and nation-love that have really never sparked anything in me before. I've never felt this sort of affinity for a politician before, and a lot of it is simply that he seems like a good man who is genuinely invested in doing what's best for the people in his country.

Yes! All of this! I think a lot of it for me is that patriotism aspect. I *want* to be a patriot, not the totally scary militia kind, or anything, but...[livejournal.com profile] naye loves Sweden, will boast about Sweden, and it's cool. And America has things I can be proud of, I really do think our ideals are wonderful. But I've so rarely been able to feel it before, so to be fangirling on the *president* - it's a good feeling! I listen to his speeches and feel *stirred*, and I've never had a politician do that to me. It doesn't mean I am going to blindly support him no matter what, or that I'm not going to criticize or scrutinize his every decision once he's in...but that feeling of pride, of truly loving one's country in spite of its problems, I've never really gotten that before now. (even if it is practically indistinguishable from my fanning instinct ^^;)

Doesn't hurt that he's so frigging cute with his wife and family! I fangirl on real hugs as well as fictional XP

Date: 2008-11-06 08:27 pm (UTC)
ariadne83: cropped from official schematics (Default)
From: [personal profile] ariadne83
But it's not really RPF!See, the 'real' Stargate president is Henry Hayes, so it's AU!

I'll take any flimsy excuse; I just really want this story.

Date: 2008-11-07 05:03 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga rodney spell)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Whatever schedule the SG verse is on, Hayes should definitely should be out of office by now, it's been over 8 years, I'm pretty sure! So they totally should bring in an Obama equivalent! XD

This is why I love Stargate fandom

Date: 2008-11-07 07:13 am (UTC)
ariadne83: cropped from official schematics (Default)
From: [personal profile] ariadne83
Acutally, Hayes would only be at the end of his first term. He wasn't inaugurated until SG-1's eighth season (2004, according to Gateworld). I am such a nerd.

And as for the RPF: it's already been written: http://ladycat777.livejournal.com/1008185.html (LJ won't let me prettify my code *sulk*)

Re: This is why I love Stargate fandom

Date: 2008-11-07 07:35 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Really? Ahh, is that when Hayes was against Kinsey? I didn't watch all of those seasons of SG-1 ^^; Still, Obama could've beaten him!

Eeehee, thanks for the link!

Re: This is why I love Stargate fandom

Date: 2008-11-07 07:57 am (UTC)
ariadne83: cropped from official schematics (Default)
From: [personal profile] ariadne83
Yep, that's the one. Hayes is a n00b being manipulated, until Our Heroes make him see the light. I'm pretty sure Woolsey is actually the one that gives them the ammunition to take down Kinsey *loves*.

Date: 2008-11-06 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immicolia.livejournal.com
Oh, NCIS! ♥ It is so very much my non-fandomy obsession. In that I don't actually know about or care about the fandom but I still love the show to so many tiny little pieces. The politics of it make me a little edgy too, but I kinda set it aside to "what do I expect from a show about naval investigators?" Besides, it has probably the best ensemble cast I have ever seen. And I know any continued comment from me will probably devolve into incoherent flailing so I'll just stop now. ^^

Date: 2008-11-06 07:39 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Ahahah I just watched the ep your icon comes from! *needs an Abby icon* Yeah, I sort of avoid thinking too much about the plots (either their massive plot holes or their on-occasion disquieting themes) and focus on the adorableness of the ensemble. Fortunately there's more than enough adorableness to distract me!

Date: 2008-11-06 08:14 pm (UTC)
ext_1740: (Default)
From: [identity profile] stillane.livejournal.com
Re: NCIS... Mwahaha! Come join us in the military-themed crack. Ignore the politics. It's totally worth it. It's good when it's fun, but it's better when it's serious. For your average police procedural, it's got a ton of character growth and nuance, and a surprising amount of continuity. It's one of those shows that slides under your radar, because you aren't expecting the acting that goes into it, or the thought behind the overarching plots (even when some of the individual episodes make you go, Um, not quite). And they really are a family, which of course does not hit every giant button of glee that I have. (Hi, SGA team, hi!) *g*

Also, Tony will grow on you. Like, big time. Michael Weatherly all by himself is gorgeous, but it's Tony that will sometimes break your heart. And there is no way Mark Harmon is totally oblivious to what he is doing there; the man nuzzles when he hugs, for pete's sake. :P

Date: 2008-11-07 05:39 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Hee, it seems like most of the fans are deliberately overlooking the politics to enjoy the crack! It bothered me more s1, I'm settling in now. (I think I had particular trouble because for the last couple years my only cop show has been Numb3rs, which is rather more comfortably politically aligned for me...) And yes, family-team for the win!

I already like Tony! (I ought to clarify that calling a character an ass is not really a criticism, I have an undue fondness for asses and assholes. ^^;) But I would like to see a more serious side of him now and again - clowns with some internal angst are a fave type. (and Michael Weatherly, yeah...he actually sets off my Nick Lea effect - turn up my nose because he's a little *too* perfect, I tend to go for looks a bit more quirky. But the more I see, the more I appreciate the pretty ^^)

Wait, does Gibbs actually hug Tony??

Date: 2008-11-06 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katikat.livejournal.com
Ha, a new NCIS fan! *twirls you* This show rocks like a rocking thing. It also has a huge amount of well written women which is great. And it won't stay all white for ever, believe me. I love it to pieces. Coupled with The Mentalist, it just makes my Tuesday. Or Wednesday because I get it of the net ;)

Date: 2008-11-07 05:40 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Yes, I really enjoy the female characters! Always a plus. looking forward to seeing who comes in next!

Date: 2008-11-06 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mezzo-cammin.livejournal.com
I've only seen a couple of episodes of NCIS, and I wanted to go back and watch from the beginning. Still looking for the early eps. But Life...oh, man, I found it on Hulu and I think I watched the entire first season during one marathon weekend...I loved it. Charlie's so...broken. And so is his partner. And they're not going to be easily fixed. Hopefully. I loved the zen thing, but they've pulled that back a lot, unfortunately. But still...love it!

Date: 2008-11-07 06:07 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Life is very fun - s2 has been a trip so far. It's so very surreal, it's more like a British show, I think, when it comes to that; American TV is more concerned with simulating realism, Britain seems more to care about telling cool stories, and that's what Life does.

Also, must love Charlie and Dani in all their mutual brokenness, yes!

Date: 2008-11-06 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacealien-vamp.livejournal.com
I will add my voice to those squeeing over NCIS. My brother introduced me to it this summer, and I promptly marathoned the whole thing. Abby is the best character I've seen in AGES. I totally need to make an Abby icon, too.

I can't see seriously slashing anyone on the show, to be honest. Particularly not Tony (who, of the entire male cast, gets on my nerves the most).

If I had to pair anyone, in fact, I'd go for Gibbs/Abby.

Date: 2008-11-07 06:09 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
I need an Abby icon, totally!

Aww, I rather like Tony, in an annoying puppy sort of way. But no, I can see the slash potential, but it's not why I'm there.

Gibbs/Abby I can see, but he's such a daddy to her, it'd be a little weird! I think Abby/McGee is cute, really - but it's the family nature of the team that does it for me. ^_^

Date: 2008-11-08 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spacealien-vamp.livejournal.com
I think Abby/McGee is cute, really - but it's the family nature of the team that does it for me.

I agree that Abby and McGee are cute together, and I wouldn't be sad if the show ever put them together for good...but as it is, the scripts keep making it perfectly clear that Abby no longer views McGee as romance potential.

I do really like the way the team is written as one big family.

Date: 2008-11-07 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livrin.livejournal.com
Um, hi, I have been stalking your LJ for a while in silent mode, so I apologize if I just suddenly dropping in unannounced like this.^^;

You basically have said all of the points that make me squee about this show. ♥ I love Abby and Kate fiercely plus all the other casts, they're such a one big family. Also Kate-Tony platonic male-female friendship = LOVE, yes, I love your wording~ One of my main reason continuing to watch this show is also cause I adore their adorkable sibling rivalry, competing for Gibbs's parental approval and the mediation with Ducky, but still has each other back in the end. :) *is happy to meet another NCIS fan*

And that last paragraph in your post? Wow, ummm, yes, pls?? It's fantastic. I want to see Rodney trying valiantly to be dismissing and unsusceptible to Obama's awesomeness cause he's a politician but fail, cause, well, to be honest I can't really choose between the two of them and uhh...I've rambled long enough so I'll just stop here, yes. I'm so sorry for cluttering your LJ. ^^;; *hugs*

Date: 2008-11-07 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livrin.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, I realized the last part of my comment could be interpreted in another way and I don't want to offend anyone cause this is a president of their country, and Obama+his family = heartwarming picture, so I just want to clarify that I wrote it as a respond to a gen fic in my mind. :)

Date: 2008-11-07 06:13 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
(Welcome to the lj comments, the more the merrier! ^^)

The family-ness of the NCIS crew is so adorable! They are all such siblings, competing for daddy-Gibbs's attention, but they do good work, too. Very much enjoying it!

Hee, yes, Rodney meeting Obama would be awesome! *fangirls both of them madly* (and don't worry, your original comment sounded perfectly gen to me, but I wouldn't worry even if you accidentally implied subtextual slash with our president, I wouldn't take offense and I don't think most of my flist would, either, s'all in good fun! XP)

Date: 2008-11-07 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jakrar.livejournal.com
NCIS is fun (although I'll admit the right-wing tone can irritate me from time to time) and I really enjoy the characters.

Date: 2008-11-07 08:53 am (UTC)
ext_3572: (Default)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Heh - it seems like most of the fans have to make themselves overlook the rightwinged-ness - the chars are worth it, though!

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