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So Martin Gero made some comments on the most recent episode of SGA.

"For five years, we didn’t even know it, but all [Rodney] wanted was for someone to tell him that they loved him in an unconditional way."

I want to...I want to kick Martin Gero's head in with a big spiky boot. OF LOVE.

So the love of friends and family (because doesn't Jeannie love him, too? or was she lying when she said "I love you" in "Miller's Crossing" and faking her tears in "The Shrine"?) counts for snot, because it's not romantic, sexual love.

And unconditional love is quoting a guy's own brain-damaged love confession back at him (six months later), and then offering him sex on a plane to make him shut up.

I have no boyfriend! I HAVE NO LOVE! What do I do??? My life is empty! Meaningless!

*cue total fucking mental breakdown*

Okay, now I'm going to do my best to forget this episode ever happened. There's been other eps I haven't enjoyed, but this is the first one that's seriously in danger of spoiling my fanning. It pretty much ruined Rodney's character for me even when I was ignoring the McKeller (I swear, I'd've been almost as outraged if the ep had gone the same way only with John instead of Keller, though at least then I'd have some McShep making out), and now that I am meant to think that banging Keller on the plane is the most significant and important event of Rodney's life in the past five years - yeah. Someone tell me how to hold onto my SGA love, because I don't want to lose this fandom, but the show seems pretty determined to use its dying breath to drive me away.

ETA: I gotta say, SGA these days is really making me appreciate NCIS. NCIS has one s5 ep that is explicitly the 100% opposite theme as this.

Date: 2008-11-25 03:32 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga team meal)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
See, for me, I don't think we've even been shown the friendship potential of Rodney & Keller. We haven't seen them having much of anything in common; we haven't seen them spend any time together, except either when forced by circumstance (medical or trapped in a box) or awkwardly flirting over meals. I don't know how a friendship between Rodney & Keller would work, much less a marriage (which kinda seems to be where the writers want to go...)

I also admit that I don't see what Keller sees in Rodney. I find Rodney incredibly attractive myself on a number of levels, but I don't know what she likes in him. Apparently not his intelligence or his arrogance (which are big turn-ons for me) the way she was shooting him down - and she doesn't act that physically attracted. She liked him when he was sweet when he was brain-damaged - but if you like sweet guys, how the hell do you end up crushing on Rodney? I mean, he can be sweet, but it's not his default setting. Ronon can be sweeter than Rodney, so if that's what she likes why didn't she pursue that?

The "I love you" bugged me more than the sex. They're both adults, it's been a while since either of them have dated as far as we know; after the adrenaline-fueled day, diving into bed together doesn't seem unreasonable to me. But to imply that it's all important, to say that it matters more than the years of friendship Rodney's shared with John and the team, that stung.

Definitely the subtextual nature is one of the major draws of slash for me...my favorite romances are those with a firm foundation in friendship; in most slash, all we ever are shown canonically is the friendship, so it's great fun to build on. While as in too much textual romance, we get big romantic gestures and confessions, but not much of the subtle displays of mutual affection that are my biggest kink.

Date: 2008-11-25 04:46 pm (UTC)
ext_1453: (rm - full of stars)
From: [identity profile] elandrialore.livejournal.com
I should clarify that when I say potential friendship I mean it's the possibility somewhere down the line (like several years) of them becoming friends like Sam and Rodney are friends (though I feel that he and Sam have more chemistry). The potential is there, it just hasn't been developed.

Having said that, however, I still think I would've bought the ramped down version of the two "I love you," episodes, mostly because I'm used to a little fast forward in tv relationship, which admittedly doesn't say much for me, but there it is. I also want to see Rodney being loved all the time because, of course, I love him and I want other people to as well:)

I have this feeling that the writers have this idea in their minds that they are going slow with the relationship because the McKeller thing has been hinted at since last season. Again, that was a tell not show, though. And honestly, half the McKeller knowledge came from outside the show, not inside it, which is all sorts of bad storytelling.

I completely agree with wanting to know why Keller is attracted to him. I'm with you on the intelligence, arrogance, and I'll add snarkiness. Above I said that Keller can 'handle' his moods, and to explain more fully, I don't think that Rodney should be 'handled.' His team seem to enjoy his moods (for the most part) and they can certainly focus him when he starts going off on a tangent (John mostly, but we've seen Teyla do it admirably on several occasions as well) and none of them tries to change him.

Keller handles him by calling attention to what she sees as his faults and expecting him to correct them. That's not healthy for either one of them. It's kind of like she's treating him as a child, actually, and - thinking back on the fact that she liked him better when he was childlike - that's kind of disturbing.

Date: 2008-11-25 08:54 pm (UTC)
ext_3572: (sga carter/mckay)
From: [identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com
Ah, okay - yes, I can see Rodney & Keller becoming friends later on (I actually wrote it that way, when I wrote the break-up fic...) Even if they wouldn't have one-tenth the spark of Rodney/Sam (...I would break my McShep OTP for Rodney/Sam. Their chemistry leaves me panting. Though I love their casual friendship now so much...am loving Woolsey, but I miss Sam!)

Actually the slow pace of McKeller is part of what's bothering me. What exactly took her SO long from telling Ronon she was interested in someone else to prodding Rodney into asking her out? She had some weird issues or hangups or what? She knew he was interested; if she actually *loved* him shouldn't she have made a move sooner? Or was she having some sort of fantasy she didn't want ruined by actually getting together with him? Very odd...

Date: 2008-11-25 11:41 pm (UTC)
ext_1453: (Default)
From: [identity profile] elandrialore.livejournal.com
Their relationship is like the best example ever of punctuated equilibrium. Nothing, nothing, nothing, WHAM! Evolution! And then nothing again. Weird.

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