would you like a little RAGE with your RAGE?

[xparrot]

So Martin Gero made some comments on the most recent episode of SGA.

"For five years, we didn’t even know it, but all [Rodney] wanted was for someone to tell him that they loved him in an unconditional way."

I want to...I want to kick Martin Gero's head in with a big spiky boot. OF LOVE.

So the love of friends and family (because doesn't Jeannie love him, too? or was she lying when she said "I love you" in "Miller's Crossing" and faking her tears in "The Shrine"?) counts for snot, because it's not romantic, sexual love.

And unconditional love is quoting a guy's own brain-damaged love confession back at him (six months later), and then offering him sex on a plane to make him shut up.

I have no boyfriend! I HAVE NO LOVE! What do I do??? My life is empty! Meaningless!

*cue total fucking mental breakdown*

Okay, now I'm going to do my best to forget this episode ever happened. There's been other eps I haven't enjoyed, but this is the first one that's seriously in danger of spoiling my fanning. It pretty much ruined Rodney's character for me even when I was ignoring the McKeller (I swear, I'd've been almost as outraged if the ep had gone the same way only with John instead of Keller, though at least then I'd have some McShep making out), and now that I am meant to think that banging Keller on the plane is the most significant and important event of Rodney's life in the past five years - yeah. Someone tell me how to hold onto my SGA love, because I don't want to lose this fandom, but the show seems pretty determined to use its dying breath to drive me away.

ETA: I gotta say, SGA these days is really making me appreciate NCIS. NCIS has one s5 ep that is explicitly the 100% opposite theme as this.

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Um, more incoherent than normal. sorry

[cesperanza.livejournal.com]

It's funny--I saw you being all, "Well, I'm not a typical slasher" etc. above, and I was going to comment, wow, you express my views ENTIRELY--and now here you are, pointing to ME as a "true" slasher. I mean, FWIW, I don't think there's any such thing, though I'd hate "trueness" to be reserved for people who are like, any two guys, though even they, I mean--I don't think they think they're doing any two guys. But whatever. The point of it is, while I certainly don't think of myself as a true slasher, I feel I'm a legitimately "real" slasher--but I'm a friendship junkie, too; I slash for all the reasons you mentioned, and I totally see sex as an extension of deep intimate friendship (the sex is like, the sign of the intimacy)--and moreover, I've written het and shipped het pairings, but they have to be--not even friends, but coworkers, intimates, partners--so yes, Josh/Donna, yes, Mulder/Skully, yes, John/Aeryn, yes even Buffy/Spike, yes even Teyla/John, had they gone there, but no McKeller, no McKatieBrown, etc. My kink is for competency and a kind of surprised already-marriedness: the recognition that you're kind of stuck with this total whackjob but you don't even so much mind, because somehow they've become indispensable. That being said, this is *totally not what I want in my RL*--in my RL, I'm much more like friendshipper: I think codependency is bad and deliberately chose a personal relationship that gives me a lot of freedom. They don't correlate at ALL (I'd murder someone if I was stuck in a Canadian shack with them; hello, I live in Manhattan!) and so while I totally understood her points, it's just not how I read fic.

*goes to look at the other thread*

Re: Um, more incoherent than normal. sorry

[xparrot.livejournal.com]

Ahh, I didn't mean to cast any aspersions on "true" slashers by denying being one; that spoke more of my own fannish insecurities than anything else. I started out in online fandom as a slash-avoiding hardcore gen-smarm fan, and on occasion I worry that someday it'll be discovered by the Fannish Bureau of Investigation that I still skim the sex scenes in half the fic I read, and they'll take away my slasher's card!

...That being said, yours is some of the fic that I always do read the sex, because it's never just hot smut, it's always saying something about the characters and their relationship and what they mean to each other, and that gets me going like nothing else. Your stuff hits my friendship kink hard - hmm, not even the friendship kink, but what you say, that already-marriedness, that surprise unexpected tied-together-and-nothing-to-be-done-about-it. Which is what does it for me, and which, I think, tends to occur more with male-male relationships in fiction (because m-f tends to be so fraught with "sexual tension" from the beginning that other bonds often don't get developed) - but when it's there in a het relationship, I am all over those pairings. (Mulder/Scully, John/Aeryn, YES; the others I don't know, but would probably go for...)

I totally see sex as an extension of deep intimate friendship (the sex is like, the sign of the intimacy)

Yes, YES, this, exactly. Sex can mean other things too, obviously, but in my OTPs, it's a way to bond; it's not about lust for physical satisfaction so much as the desire to be closer, to share something private and unique...through hawt physical satisfaction XP

And yeah, me too, that what I like in fic has little to do with what I want in my own life. Heck, I'm a happy single these days, and have never wanted children, and yet I enjoy kid!fic on occasion. But then, I love h/c, too, and it's not like I've ever wanted to be buried under an avalanche, no matter how much sympathy and cuddles it would get me; what I want for my favorite characters is not what I want for myself!

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[cesperanza.livejournal.com]

Bwah. I realized the fic-life disjunction thing really early on, because sometimes I thought I wanted to be Indiana Jones, running through trees, but mostly I realized that I would probably want to stop every five minutes for a cigarette and a latte. *g*