xparrot: WeiLan in the taxi in ep 8 (Guardian)
[personal profile] xparrot
Things are stressful but overall okay here for now. Like everyone we're operating on a "could be worse" basis, and yeah, things could be a lot worse for us.

In a more traditional whine (just like old times!), March is almost over, and I've managed to write every day so far -- my tally last night was a measly 155 words, I've only broken 1,000 twice this month, and it's frustrating as hell (I've done NaNo more than once, for pity's sake!). And there was just a Guardian exchange that I didn't sign up for, in large part because I'm so uncertain about my words now and the particular format of the exchange unduly stressed me out; but I do work better on deadlines, more often than not, and with a recipient to not let down -- responsibility is a good motivator...

...So I'm dealing with the stress and self-doubt by working on fic that I know no one will read -- okay, that's not totally true, my lovely and kind [personal profile] naye is reading it! But I wouldn't read it, for all I want to write it (it's Shen Wei/other, pre-Kunlun, a prequel to the Dixing pon farr fic that's not even h/c, basically just all angst?)

He's unprepared, when Hei Pao Shi moves--as fast as he would in battle, crossing the last distance between them. He twists Xia Zhi around in one head-spinning motion, grasping his wrist and bending his arm back to pin him in place. The table edge digs into his stomach, and Xia Zhi gulps in a breath, tries to steady his sudden tremor--he came for this; he should have been ready for it.

Though Hei Pao Shi isn't yet pressing against him. His arm isn't even braced, yet Xia Zhi cannot move against it. The hand around Xia Zhi's wrist is sweat-damp but firm, so tight a grip that Xia Zhi's fingers are going numb. Hei Pao Shi's breathing, this close, is a little fast, too shallow, but even.

"This will not be easy," Hei Pao Shi says. His voice is no louder than before, but there is a tension in it now, the sharp and quiet threat of a blade against the throat. "I do not intend to hurt you--but I cannot promise that I won't."

Xia Zhi cannot move--trying to push back, to free his wrist, is as futile as trying to lift a mountain. "And you," Hei Pao Shi continues, "must remember what I will not--you must stay focused, and adamant against me, or it will all be for nothing."

Xia Zhi holds himself still, works up the spit to wet to his dry tongue, to keep his voice from cracking. "I can," he says. "I will."

Hei Pao Shi lets him go.

Date: 2020-03-30 12:11 am (UTC)
sheron: RAF bi-plane doodle (Johns) (Default)
From: [personal profile] sheron
I wrote like 163 words in March, literally >.>

I definitely sympathize with the lack of CAN. I'm glad you're managing fic steadily, by working on it every day. *cheers*

Date: 2020-03-30 02:28 am (UTC)
sheron: RAF bi-plane doodle (Johns) (Default)
From: [personal profile] sheron
I am trying! Just knowing that I *can* is nice. But it's hard because all those writing muscles have atrophied. I'm trying to get back into it by looking at some fannish stuff, rewatching favourite bits of canon etc. So at least it's a nice journey :)

But yeah, it's frustrating since I also use writing for stress relief and distraction.

Date: 2020-03-30 03:31 am (UTC)
sheron: RAF bi-plane doodle (Johns) (Default)
From: [personal profile] sheron
I have two WIPs (Steve/Tony XD) and one of them is like 3k and edits from done (from back when I had time to write) and one is longfic and I want to work on both of them, my brain is just not used to writing anything anymore.

Revisiting canon is surprisingly nervy after a while because "what if you don't like it as much as you used to??" but that worry doesn't tend to come true, as I remember what I love about canon every time.

Date: 2020-03-30 12:48 am (UTC)
rlyqueer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rlyqueer
I definitely feel you on the battle with the writing demons. But it's awesome you're still writing every day! I think every little bit counts, even--maybe especially--when it feels like it doesn't.

Also damn that snippet... The tension! I loved the pon farr fic possibly an unreasonable amount, and have always wondered about Shen Wei's past before meeting Kunlun and his traumatic experiences insinuated in the fic. I would absolutely read this prequel ftr, but I know there's a sense of comfort in just writing something you're not going to publish. It def helps take the pressure off. Good luck with fighting those writing demons!!! 💪

Date: 2020-03-30 01:57 pm (UTC)
clevermanka: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] clevermanka
I am absolutely going to read that fic. So you know. I read Deep Waters in (nearly) one sitting (I allllmost just sat in the airport to read the last chapter instead of driving home). I'm definitely here for the prequel. I want to see how that Shen Wei got to where we see him in Deep Waters.

Date: 2020-03-30 08:46 pm (UTC)
clevermanka: default (Default)
From: [personal profile] clevermanka
*cheers you on*

Date: 2020-03-30 03:31 pm (UTC)
rheasilvia: (Blank canvas)
From: [personal profile] rheasilvia
It's so great that you've written every day! I think you can be proud of that - you are SO far ahead of me, seriously.

a Guardian exchange that I didn't sign up for, in large part because I'm so uncertain about my words now and the particular format of the exchange unduly stressed me out; but I do work better on deadlines

Oh man. Same here. On the one hand, I am regretful because I do think I would have gotten more writing done with the exchange - but on the other hand, none of us really need more stress in our lives right now. So in the end, I do think that people who find this kind of challenge stressful are right to abstain. Better times will come again, and then we can subject ourselves to the challenge bears with reckless abandon. ;-)

I am still pondering what a low-stress writing challenge might look like, that we could use to motivate ourselves without stress. I think we can put something together!

And writing what you want to write is definitely always the way to go, so more power to you. The readers will do what they want, what matters is that you do what YOU want. ;-)

Date: 2020-03-31 11:19 am (UTC)
rheasilvia: (SW secret BAMF)
From: [personal profile] rheasilvia
Okay, so how about a challenge specifically for finishing WiPs (or languishing story ideas), where you specify the story/stories you want to finish when you sign up? There can be a weekly check-in along the lines of Sunday Six, where everyone either posts in their own DW or on a community post. (Maybe we can stagger check-ins with everyone choosing a weekday that works for them.)

I'm still thinking about the time frame and more ways to motivate people without stress, but something along those lines, perhaps?

I pretty much always write what I want to write, but usually what I want to write is what I want to read too.

Yeah, that actually made me very curious, and it is most definitely very interesting! I am trying to think back, but I think that - while I have definitely written stories that I was *ashamed* of wanting to read - I've never actually written something that I didn't want to read. Except for some very short drabbles that were the result of prompts that didn't appeal to me... and I couldn't say I actually wanted to write those.

What might have come closest was my attempt at writing a prequel to my one Eroica story, which would have filled in the backstory for one of the main characters in a very interesting way. But it turned out to be too harrowing for me to write (it would have been third person POV, and the narrator would not have understood what he was seeing at all, but... major warning territory there). I actually would have liked to read that story, even though it would have been hard even as a reader, but as a writer, it was just too much.
Edited Date: 2020-03-31 11:20 am (UTC)

Date: 2020-04-02 01:36 am (UTC)
rheasilvia: (Fortune cookie affirmation)
From: [personal profile] rheasilvia
Yes, good idea, let's try the writing camp! Wow, the last time I participated in NaNoWriMo seems to have been in 2014 - I'd say it's about time. Not sure the wordcount is going to help me finish my WIPs, but that's okay, I can improvise. ;-)

I am Rhea Silvia, and have asked to be your buddy. Should I make a group? Do you already have one? (I don't actually know how groups work... I've been a solitary NaNoWriMoer until now. *g*)

it's more accurate that I sometimes write things that I would not read if someone else wrote them

Ah, yes, that makes a great deal of sense to me - if you write them, after all, you have control over just *how* the story does the thing that you usually don't like, and that makes all the difference. And yeah, it can be very interesting to try to write something you don't like; in my case it's usually just to see what exactly it is that I usually don't like about it, and how I can make it work for me.

you wrote Eroica?

Yes indeed - just the one story, though (Peripeteia, one of my worst titles ever; truly the height of my Title Tribulations). It was a classic case of "why is nobody writing this extremely necessary story??". ;-) I suspect that I would do a great many things differently if I were to write it again today, but I would definitely still have to write it, if nobody else stepped forward. *g*

(And BTW, by "third person POV" I meant "third party/outside POV", argh. *headdesk*)

Date: 2020-04-02 04:37 pm (UTC)
umadoshi: (Guardian boys 11)
From: [personal profile] umadoshi
most of the explicit stuff I've written falls into this too, as I just don't enjoy reading smut but sometimes find it interesting to (attempt to!) write.

*thoughtful* I enjoy reading smut for enough different reasons that I'm happy to try smut written by anyone whose writing I generally like, but most of why I enjoy writing it is because of the often-subtly different edges it brings to the characters' emotions. (My Fruits Basket fandom days left me a fan of the "people being emotionally honest with each other in bed in ways they can't be otherwise", which wasn't really something that came into play in Newsflesh fic but has opened back up with Guardian.)

So I'm always interested to hear how other people's experiences of reading (or not) vs. writing it--or reading vs. writing other things--vary, and why. ^_^

Date: 2020-04-04 04:53 am (UTC)
umadoshi: (fractal 02 (enriana from obsessiveicons))
From: [personal profile] umadoshi
I'm a little reluctant to talk about it because, like, a lot of people really enjoy reading and writing smut, but can be embarrassed about it anyway

*nodsnods* That makes sense. (Alas!) Anything involving sex, fictional or not, can be so sensitive. (And there's that aggravating double standard about reading/writing smutty fiction where some subset of people just...assume that the person reading or writing it is into whatever kind of sex is in there IRL. *sighs*)

All the facets of the emotional-honesty aspect appeal to me! People betraying feelings they were trying to hide (from themselves or from the other person/people)? Excellent. Only feeling safe/comfortable/relaxed/desperate/vulnerable enough to be able to be honest about feelings when in bed? Also excellent. Showing otherwise-inexpressible emotions non-verbally? Still excellent. *happy sigh*

I haven't finished writing much Guardian smut (only one fic!), but I've got enough written in general that I'm starting to get a feel for how I interpret SW and ZYL together, and one of the things I'm finding very satisfying is that, for all Shen Wei's general failure to ask for anything or to admit to wanting or needing anything (etc. etc., because SHEN WEI), in my head he's much better about those things when it comes to sex because Zhao Yunlan so blatantly wants it for him but also actively gets off on Shen Wei feeling good. To me that's an extra-lovely juxtaposition with all the complex emotional undercurrents and the timeloop fraughtness/payoff.

(Possibly "fraughtness" is not a word. Oh, well!)

I tend to be more interested in the lead up and aftermath, and the act itself is typically just boring to me (at best; sometimes it can leave me feeling...left out? 😅)

This makes a lot of sense to me too!

Personally my reasons for liking to read smut vary somewhat, but they're basically always in the emotional range, not the visceral "this is a turn-on for me" range. (And yet I do tend to be very aware of if I think something is hot--I find some fic absolutely scorchingly hot! But even then, it's about 90% a very pleased emotional response of "these precious people I love enough to constantly read about are having a VERY GOOD TIME, and that makes me extremely happy".)

I guess basically as both a reader and a writer, what I want most is to have the emotional stuff seeded heavily right through the entire scene, so as a reader, if the actual sex is mostly about the physical mechanics, I won't love it. But what I'm always aiming for when I'm writing very explicit fic, and am absolutely delighted to find as a reader, is a sense of the characters being utterly caught up in it (unless the point is that they're not, of course) and aware of all the physical things going on, but filtered heavily through the emotions it's evoking or that they're working through. I'm content to read just about any degree of explicitness if I get that.

...ooh. As I was writing that paragraph, I thought of this: to me, the degree of physical explicitness is like the brightness of light coming in a window. If the window's clear glass, it can get too bright for me to want to look at it much or for long, but if the emotional stuff is stained glass, just about any degree of brightness coming in is okay, and the permutations of color and intensity are basically all beautiful.

(But also I'm sleepy and not sure how much sense that makes. I thought I'd write it down anyway. ^^; This got rambly, though.)

writing it is a challenge because I'm never quite sure how people will react to it, when I know my own reactions aren't a great metric.

Oof, yes. I can see how that'd be tricky. But sometimes the outcome of a challenge is so good! *^^*

Date: 2020-03-30 06:07 pm (UTC)
trobadora: (Black-Cloaked Envoy)
From: [personal profile] trobadora
Sorry you're struggling with the writing! I feel you on that, A LOT. I'd only just managed to recover my mojo a little earlier this month, and now I've fallen into a hole again. /o\

But it's great that you've been writing every day! Every little bit helps.

Your fic sounds really interesting. Not sure if it will be my thing, but this snippet looks great!

Date: 2020-03-31 12:13 am (UTC)
umadoshi: (Yotsuba&! teddy bear (ohsnap_icons))
From: [personal profile] umadoshi
Let there be no doubt in the world that I'll read this fic. I will be all over it.

*hugs* I'm sorry you're having to wrestle so hard with the words. I hope they start flowing more easily again.

Date: 2020-04-02 04:39 pm (UTC)
umadoshi: (Guardian boys 15)
From: [personal profile] umadoshi
Heeeee okay I admit I was really hoping you'd be interested in this one, but I didn't want to presume.

Given that I love your writing in general and don't actually have any particular squicks, I think you can safely assume that I will always want to read anything you write in this fandom. ^_^ Even when it's not pinging things I'm specifically interested in, which this idea clearly is.

Date: 2020-03-31 01:12 am (UTC)
galaxysoup: (BabsPissedBase)
From: [personal profile] galaxysoup
I for one will totally read the Pon Farr prequel! But I also totally feel you on the writing woes. It's why I didn't sign up for 520 either. I didn't even get anywhere on my lockdown fic. :(

The scariest part for me when I hit a writing slump is always the fear that this is just what my writing is going to be like from now on. This March has lasted for years and sucked all the way through and I don't like it!

I'm glad that you're all safe and reasonably well, though. And I believe that your writing mojo will come back to you!! It's really good that you've managed to write every day - even if it's only a little bit, that's really impressive!!

Date: 2020-04-05 04:30 pm (UTC)
galaxysoup: (BabsPissedBase)
From: [personal profile] galaxysoup
I went and signed up for Camp NaNo too, on the hope that the illusion of external accountability will make me write stuff. Fingers crossed!

RL stress is the worst - writing is such a good escape, sometimes, but then sometimes the stress you're trying to escape RUINS IT like a big ruining ruiner and it's extremely unfair!

My fingers are crossed on both of our behalves for writing mojo.

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